"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I've always had girls chasing me but lately the girls I've encountered have require more effort from my part. Since I'm not used to it, it feels like I'm doing more of the 'chasing' as opposed to the girls chasing me.

After many flakes, and ignored texts and such, where does persistence come to play?

I feel like my ego and pride is too big to be chasing girls, so I move on faster than I probably should, and therefore am missing many opportunities that probably could've been reached with a little bit of persistence.

I'm curious to hear your guys' thoughts on this. Do any of you guys feel like this as well? Do some of you just not care and persist until you reach your goal?
 

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Well, I just had an experience where I almost gave up on a hot girl because she didn't seem interested enough. She was just not the type that takes initiatives.

By being persistent but patient, I managed to rise her IL and now we are soon to have our 3rd date. It took me several weeks to get there. She is still not taking any initiatives but now when I do she responds quickly and happily.

I never did any "no contact for a week" stuff to make her contact me. If I had I would probably never have heard from her again. This girl seems to appreciate gradually increasing contact - casual stuff, like chat on fb or sms a little now and then. Like they describe in the article below, "putting yourself on her radar".

Be persistent but don't stalk or be annoying. Without patience it's impossible to chase after these kind of girls. They need time and space.

I found this article good:
http://www.sosuave.com/articles/aoa/thekey.htm
 
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Most women want you to chase and want to see how far you will go to catch them and will put up little tests like breaking dates, not returning calls, etc. Its the natural vetting process to see which man is best suited for her. Its a game plan that is spelled out in THE RULES that many women follow.

Of course, if she demonstrates consistent flakey behavior and doesnt show any signs of giving in then she is truly not interested in you and you should not waste any more time on her.

One woman (HB 8) I dated had me wait almost 6 weeks for a second date but by the third date we were fycking like rabbits. So yes, persistence does pay off in the end and too much nexting at the first sign of flakiness is advocated here I believe.

Like the above poster said, some women like taking things really slow and in fact these types of women are the ones you want an LTR with.
 
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Thanks for sharing you guys! I guess I'm just not used to waiting weeks and weeks for results, but like you guys said all girls are different and some want to be chased.
 
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she probably ran out of options after 6 weeks... :rolleyes:

gaspipe said:
Most women want you to chase and want to see how far you will go to catch them and will put up little tests like breaking dates, not returning calls, etc. Its the natural vetting process to see which man is best suited for her. Its a game plan that is spelled out in THE RULES that many women follow.

So they are trying to find out whom they can easily manipulate?

Of course, if she demonstrates consistent flakey behavior and doesnt show any signs of giving in then she is truly not interested in you and you should not waste any more time on her.

One woman (HB 8) I dated had me wait almost 6 weeks for a second date but by the third date we were fycking like rabbits. So yes, persistence does pay off in the end and too much nexting at the first sign of flakiness is advocated here I believe.

Like the above poster said, some women like taking things really slow and in fact these types of women are the ones you want an LTR with.
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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A girl can string you along for about 2 months before sex as long as she shows signs of serious interest (for example, she holds you a certain way, or texts you 20 times a day, or mails hand-written letters and gifts to you). This can be worth the wait, if only because your own lust will amplify the eventual sex you have.

However, if she never shows any signs of interest at all then it's a lost cause after about 2 weeks of her not responding.
 
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