bigjohnson
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Good luck, stay off the Oreos.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Penkitten Is Smoke -FREE!!!
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
so its the end of the day and i stayed smoke free all day, im kinda impressed myself. i appreciate everyone's thoughts and kind words
i also want a smoke so bad that i just about can't stand it.
so instead, im gonna go take a shower until all the hot water runs out and then see if i can sleep.
can you guys believe i laid off work today because i was too scared i would smoke if i went to work?
i also want a smoke so bad that i just about can't stand it.
so instead, im gonna go take a shower until all the hot water runs out and then see if i can sleep.
can you guys believe i laid off work today because i was too scared i would smoke if i went to work?
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
I remember quitting smoking. I miss my American Spirts
You'll find a new quirk to pass the time with soon enough. Smokes were like mini-vacations for me, smoke breaks of paradise if you will. Getting something to sub-in, is easy makes all the difference.
You'll find a new quirk to pass the time with soon enough. Smokes were like mini-vacations for me, smoke breaks of paradise if you will. Getting something to sub-in, is easy makes all the difference.
iqqi
Master Don Juan
A lot of women gain weight when they stop smoking, so maybe you can do some kind of work out during those moments where you really want a ciggy, and kind of eliminate the possibility, while you combat the urge? A lot of women I know tried to quit, then used that reason as why they gave up trying to quit, and won't even try to quit in the future.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Crazy Asian
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hmmm i've always wondered how attractive penkitten is
Magma
Senior Don Juan
Congratulations. I'm two weeks in on a cold turkey diet. It gets better Penkitten. In the first week, I was like a crack head. Couldn't concentrate, very jittery, headaches, very short temper, physical sickness/illness, etc, ad nauseum. I am a full two weeks in at this point, and there is something that I just realized at this moment:
I haven't thought about a cig all day!
It will get better. You just have to REALLY WANT to quit. Keep at it. The hardest part for me was not smoking in my car and after meals. I have been exercising a bunch (cardio) and using the sauna at the gym to sweat all the crap out of my body.
Caught a powder day two days ago on the slopes and I noticed how much easier I was breathing throughout the day. Granted, it's the near the end of the season and I'm in good ski shape, but I could tell my lungs were healing. It was all the incentive I needed to continue to stay healthy. Keep it up!
I haven't thought about a cig all day!
It will get better. You just have to REALLY WANT to quit. Keep at it. The hardest part for me was not smoking in my car and after meals. I have been exercising a bunch (cardio) and using the sauna at the gym to sweat all the crap out of my body.
Caught a powder day two days ago on the slopes and I noticed how much easier I was breathing throughout the day. Granted, it's the near the end of the season and I'm in good ski shape, but I could tell my lungs were healing. It was all the incentive I needed to continue to stay healthy. Keep it up!
LoneSilver
Master Don Juan
Thing is, we weren't born to be putting tobacco in our bodies it's a learned trait that we got from someone we hung out with either friends or even generational in a family which can be the worst kind and harder to quit.
I broke ties with a friend that had generationall habits and addictions. His dad smoked and drank and his dad's dad smoked and drank. No amount of treatment would make him quit he would go for awhile not drinking or smoking then one day out of the blue he would be drunk off his ass and be smoking like no tomorrow. In his mind whats wrong with it if his dad and grand dad did it so can he but he fails to realize if the people around him are annoyed it's time to do something about it. For there is no hidden motives behind anyone trying to inspire someone to quit bad habits regardless of what they are especially ones that could endanger ones health.
Just some added thoughts
LoneSilver
I broke ties with a friend that had generationall habits and addictions. His dad smoked and drank and his dad's dad smoked and drank. No amount of treatment would make him quit he would go for awhile not drinking or smoking then one day out of the blue he would be drunk off his ass and be smoking like no tomorrow. In his mind whats wrong with it if his dad and grand dad did it so can he but he fails to realize if the people around him are annoyed it's time to do something about it. For there is no hidden motives behind anyone trying to inspire someone to quit bad habits regardless of what they are especially ones that could endanger ones health.
Just some added thoughts
LoneSilver
penkitten
Master Don Juan
day two.. did not kill anyone yet
every time i wanted to smoke - i tried to do other things like sweep the office, or eat candy or mop the floor or eat candy or count in my head. a few times i would say to a coworker that i didn't even want to quit.
however, i am still smoke FREE!! yay!!
every time i wanted to smoke - i tried to do other things like sweep the office, or eat candy or mop the floor or eat candy or count in my head. a few times i would say to a coworker that i didn't even want to quit.
however, i am still smoke FREE!! yay!!
Hi Penkitten,
Well done you seem to be doing well. I'm quitting smoking as well so I know how you feel. It's been 5 days and haven't had a craving until I read this thread! Seems to have passed. As long as 1) you really want to quit for yourself (as someone mentioned above) and 2) you realise that it will be really difficult at times you have a good basis. Just out of interest, what function do you think smoking performs/performed in your life?
Keep it up.
Well done you seem to be doing well. I'm quitting smoking as well so I know how you feel. It's been 5 days and haven't had a craving until I read this thread! Seems to have passed. As long as 1) you really want to quit for yourself (as someone mentioned above) and 2) you realise that it will be really difficult at times you have a good basis. Just out of interest, what function do you think smoking performs/performed in your life?
Keep it up.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
where can i score some sort of crystal meth or crack?
maybe i will just go on to bed?
maybe i will just go on to bed?
Two months smoke free for me! I am still on generic nicorette, but slowing down. Sometimes I'll take a drag, just to see, and it tastes like shyt, unlike other times I've quit.
The REAL reason I was able to quit however, is that I've miraculously had a few months of NO FEMALE RELATED DRAMA!
I don't know what I'm prouder of!
Oh, yeah, download a hypnosis cd, and play it when you go to bed every night for a while.
The REAL reason I was able to quit however, is that I've miraculously had a few months of NO FEMALE RELATED DRAMA!
I don't know what I'm prouder of!
Oh, yeah, download a hypnosis cd, and play it when you go to bed every night for a while.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
whatcha' talkin' 'bout willis?woods said:
penkitten
Master Don Juan
there is no such thing as a :
"hey boss can i go have a cross stitch break"
grr
"hey boss can i go have a cross stitch break"
grr
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
bigjohnson
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penkitten said:
There must be something healthy you can do to satisfy that oral fixation ... hmmm .... I'll get back to you on that one.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
well , i am still smoking but have cut down to less than a pack a day. i stopped taking that chantix medicine the other day, because i just could not deal with the side effects of the moodiness that it brought.
Magma
Senior Don Juan
Then you were never really ready to quit in the first place. You did not mentally prepare yourself for the physical and psychological pain of withdrawal. Don't worry though. Each attempt to quit will give you new insights into addiction, and you can use that new knowledge for the next time you quit. Smokers will tell you that they have quit hundreds of times.penkitten said:
I am on going on week 4 of the cold turkey approach. I've tried the patch, medications, gum, blah blah blah. Bottom line was that I just had to WANT to quit for good. You have to be prepared to say goodbye to that old friend, the cigarette. They're fvcking junk!
I can't remember who said it on here (I think it was VU, but I will paraphrase): Anything you cannot quit is your MASTER. And you are it's SLAVE.
In Motion
Senior Don Juan
Thats just called being a woman. Dont blame the meds.penkitten said:
penkitten
Master Don Juan
haha i meant not like normal :crazy:In Motion said:
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.