"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Pending Divorce/Starting to Date: When Should I Bring It Up?

Kidd55

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Alright, back for a quick question.

We were supposed to go to a baseball game tomorrow. However the weather is bad, which sucks because the logistics were good to get her to come home. She texted me, saying she was bummed about the weather. I told her I had Plan B ready to go. (I didn’t tel her what it is yet). She said I was being ‘mysterious’ but was down with whatever I had planned.

Here’s my question:

Do I straight up tell her to come back to my neighborhood again like last week? We’d go out and then come home. Or I was thinking about doing a comedy show in the city, bouncing to different spots and see if she invites me back to her place? She had a room mate, though and I haven’t met her yet. She’s going away on a family vacation for the next week or so, so I definitely want to smash her before she leaves but I don’t want her to think I’m using her solely for sex. She has LTR potential.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Kidd55

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Well, I told her to come to my neighborhood again last night. She agreed. Had a blast, went to new bars. At the first place, she said she wasn't sleeping over. I smiled and agreed, told her no pressure. At the second place, we were all over each other, made out a ton, etc. After an hour or so, She wanted to go back to my place. This was around 1:30am and we both had to work today. We made out on my couch, kissed her neck, explored, etc, but she wouldn't let me finger her. Maybe she had her period, who knows. I definitely hit some ASD after we had sex last week. Anyway, she kept saying how much she loved making out with me, how much she wanted to stay, etc.

However, she ordered an Uber and left. As soon as the door closed on the Uber, she texted me saying 'So hard to leave. Had so much fun again'. I responded saying 'No worries. Had a blast'.

She's going away for a week for a family vacation, so I'll see her in a little.

Any comments on this? There could be a million different reasons for the ASD after we had sex the first time. Maybe she's starting to view me more as a potential boyfriend? She's covertly communicates about making plans for future events and stuff.
 

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Well, I told her to come to my neighborhood again last night. She agreed. Had a blast, went to new bars. At the first place, she said she wasn't sleeping over. I smiled and agreed, told her no pressure. At the second place, we were all over each other, made out a ton, etc. After an hour or so, She wanted to go back to my place. This was around 1:30am and we both had to work today. We made out on my couch, kissed her neck, explored, etc, but she wouldn't let me finger her. Maybe she had her period, who knows. I definitely hit some ASD after we had sex last week. Anyway, she kept saying how much she loved making out with me, how much she wanted to stay, etc.

However, she ordered an Uber and left. As soon as the door closed on the Uber, she texted me saying 'So hard to leave. Had so much fun again'. I responded saying 'No worries. Had a blast'.

She's going away for a week for a family vacation, so I'll see her in a little.

Any comments on this? There could be a million different reasons for the ASD after we had sex the first time. Maybe she's starting to view me more as a potential boyfriend? She's covertly communicates about making plans for future events and stuff.
She obviously likes you and probably sees you as a long term interest, she's trying to slow it down it happens. Women can get funny when things happen to fast for them, it just means she's testing you to see if it's just for sex for you. If she thinks it is she's gone, if not she'll stay.
 

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She obviously likes you and probably sees you as a long term interest, she's trying to slow it down it happens. Women can get funny when things happen to fast for them, it just means she's testing you to see if it's just for sex for you. If she thinks it is she's gone, if not she'll stay.
Gotcha. What’s the best way to frame It so it isn’t just sex? I don’t want to telegraph too much interest yet, but she’s come out of her way to see me twice. She drops hints about wanting to do specific outings, but I haven’t made solid plans yet since she’s going away for a week.
 

DEEZEDBRAH

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Here’s my question:

Do I straight up tell her to come back to my neighborhood again like last week? We’d go out and then come home. Or I was thinking about doing a comedy show in the city, bouncing to different spots and see if she invites me back to her place? She had a room mate, though and I haven’t met her yet. She’s going away on a family vacation for the next week or so, so I definitely want to smash her before she leaves but I don’t want her to think I’m using her solely for sex. She has LTR potential.
Much of game or pua is garbage in 2019 but, the basics of the original stuff is money.

False time restraints play into dread game. Pushing scarcity works better on sales and marketing then gain. Act accordingly.

Story telling is OG. Its rapport building and adds comfort. Too much kills attraction. Less is more.

There's no LTR material or wifey material. You're out of a marriage. Divorced. Be out slinging ****.

3dates/casual hangs = smash or next!

She can hit you up thereafter but, if you play it safe, someone else will crush her. Its just the game. Quit playing it safe.


A chick told me she is anxious. My response was to esculate. Going full on neanderthal is GOATS STATUS. Go no mind. Breathe into your balls. Act accordingly.

Its all practice. Moreover, new girls are turning 18 19 20 21 every day.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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