"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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paying for prom

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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collalife

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have her pay herself. youll be slotted into afc status by paying for prom every body gonna pay for themselves ITS PROM FOR goodness SAKE.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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LostAndConfused

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No. No. NO!

HandyAndy is right. The guy DOES have to pay for the girl, unless your school is free. You don't have to pay for the dress though...thats WBAFC...borderline milk-toast

Prom itself is a very romanticized, idealized, pseudo-"party-date"

Do you know why it becomes a huge popularity contest between females, and (quite pathetically) it is often the highlight of a stupid high school broad's lifetime?

The whole thing is constructed around putting the girl, the prom-date, on a pedestal. The girls put on the best looking dress they will ever wear in their entire life with the exception of them being a model or a wedding dress, they spend literally hours making themselves look great, all to get their male prom date to be a "gentleman."

This sh(i)t would be perfect! ....if we were in the 1600s....Blame feminism.

With that being said, alot of guys are LJBFriended the moment they step into the prom venue. Most guys at my school take girls they are just "friends" with anyways.

Thus the whole idea of "prom" is AFC. When guys ask girls to prom, unless they've been in a relationship beforehand (and this often isn't the case..at least from my experience). You naturally become slotted as an AFC anyways going to prom.

It doesn't mean you can escalate. You can release your inner-DJ and bypass the initial AFC parts of prom. (Thats how a few guys get "lucky" during prom).

Also, this doesn't mean you can't have fun with a girl at prom of course. If possible though, find some way to make her pay for her own way in, even though its against the "etiquette"
 

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If it's just some girl you asked to go with you and it doesn't really mean much than make her pay.. but if you asked someone you actually like and want more than just the dance and whatnot then I would probably pay.
 

dannowillbookem

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My girlfriend will be buying both our tickets and her dress. I'll be buying the liquor and have already purchased my suit (fresh as hell, I could run for congress in this thing).
 

mpimpin

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Guy pays unless your just friends and discussed it ahead of time...

Proms are way to expensive and a waste of time in my opinion. Though I am DJ'ing about ten of them this season.

I hated my prom. My tux was nice though... R.L. Polo

Ended up staying half way through one song then left for the beach...

Our tickets were free though since I helped with the construction
 

DismantleRepair

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If it's a genuine date, be a gentlemen and pay up.

If you just grabbed your nearest, also-single friend, she pays.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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just so suave

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Why would you pay $100 for a girl you might not even see again after prom? Its not 'prom etiquette' at all, she would be grateful if you pay, but it won't make her like you anymore, and she won't like you anyless if you don't pay. Save your money.
 

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Pay for the girl for prom. It's traditional and it's classy.

It IS proper etiquette if it's a real date and not a friendly thing.
 
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