“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
Pay the bill?
- Thread starter ChesterB
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Shadow Dancer
Senior Don Juan
Depends on how I'm feeling at the moment. If she really thinks she's hot shiet, I say to her, "So, what are you going to buy me?". They usually look at me, a little stunned, and say, "Uhm..well, what do you want?". Simple.
Other times I'll pay for it and say, "I'll get it this time, you can get it next time.".
Simple x 2.
Whatever you do, as long as you KNOW you're not trying to impress her, you'll be fine whether you pay or not. If you really KNOW you're not trying to impress her, she'll know it too.
Other times I'll pay for it and say, "I'll get it this time, you can get it next time.".
Simple x 2.
Whatever you do, as long as you KNOW you're not trying to impress her, you'll be fine whether you pay or not. If you really KNOW you're not trying to impress her, she'll know it too.
For me it depends on the context. If I have invited her out for something specific, then I pay. That's just implied when you invite someone to something, I think.
If it's a basic "meet and greet" kind of thing (i.e. a pre-date), then we pay for our own stuff.
If it's a basic "meet and greet" kind of thing (i.e. a pre-date), then we pay for our own stuff.
Leon Phelps
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dont even make the bill an issue, pay it and act as if it was nothing, and she most likely wont even notice. If you dont see it as an issue, neither willl she.
Starman
Master Don Juan
This entire issue has its core in AFCness
MOST AFC's have a certain type of personality where during the date, they do EVERYTHING wrong
They dont qualify the chick
They are too worried about making an impression
They are too scared to be c/f
They supplicate
They pay for bills and take girls shopping
Now, paying for the BILL isnt going to make you AFC in her eyes..but if you have all the above makings of AFCness, paying the bill only confirms her suspicions of you trying to impress her
Now if on a date, you have been c/f, teased her, qualifyed her, neg hit her, etc
Paying the bill will only make you look like a gentleman ( dont buy this entire crap that paying for a bill will make or break your game)
Its usually the AFC persona coupled with paying the bill that is your deathcall
The only reason I split 50/50, is because I want to avoid "professional daters"
women who go out for free meals and drinks, and to brag to their friends
Its hard to spot which girl is nice or using you
so I just Split 50/50 to be safe
I have had dates were the chick IMMEDIATELY paid for the entire bill, in that scenario, on a 2nd , 3rd date I would BUY her next meal
MOST AFC's have a certain type of personality where during the date, they do EVERYTHING wrong
They dont qualify the chick
They are too worried about making an impression
They are too scared to be c/f
They supplicate
They pay for bills and take girls shopping
Now, paying for the BILL isnt going to make you AFC in her eyes..but if you have all the above makings of AFCness, paying the bill only confirms her suspicions of you trying to impress her
Now if on a date, you have been c/f, teased her, qualifyed her, neg hit her, etc
Paying the bill will only make you look like a gentleman ( dont buy this entire crap that paying for a bill will make or break your game)
Its usually the AFC persona coupled with paying the bill that is your deathcall
The only reason I split 50/50, is because I want to avoid "professional daters"
women who go out for free meals and drinks, and to brag to their friends
Its hard to spot which girl is nice or using you
so I just Split 50/50 to be safe
I have had dates were the chick IMMEDIATELY paid for the entire bill, in that scenario, on a 2nd , 3rd date I would BUY her next meal
WaterTiger
Master Don Juan
I always split the bill 50/50 on the first date. My reasoning is if I don't like the guy or the date is going south, I can say "thanks but no thanks" and head out the door. If a guy is paying for your meal...you kinda feel obligated to actually sit there and eat it.
( . )( . )
Banned
why the phuck would you pay for her? does she deserve YOUR money somehow for going out with you?
straight down the middle, everytime 50/50 OR il get this one you get the next.
did i mention NEVER PAY FOR HER?
and get busy reading this then read it again until there is ABSOLUTELY no doubt in your mind.
( . )( . )
Banned
bullsh!t , you and gigalo couldnt be further from the truth, she accepted to go out with you, you didnt make her, you actually sound like you should feel obliged to pay because she may have had "something" better to do than be in the presence of an actual man, ....................pay for her time?
i say, yeah maybe when hell freezes over.
tiburon
Banned
lol
( . )( . ) dude i dont know were you get your insights men but i take mi hat off to you....
I dont remeber the last time i payed for my first date ....probably in middle schooll...Why? for excactly what ( . )( . ) said.
Paying for a first date has two things to it...first is an easy way to start wrong from the beginning ..second it can be a good test if on a first date because if the woman doesnt even fight you to go 50 - 50 ..**** NEXT THAT BYTCH!!!
( . )( . ) dude i dont know were you get your insights men but i take mi hat off to you....
I dont remeber the last time i payed for my first date ....probably in middle schooll...Why? for excactly what ( . )( . ) said.
Paying for a first date has two things to it...first is an easy way to start wrong from the beginning ..second it can be a good test if on a first date because if the woman doesnt even fight you to go 50 - 50 ..**** NEXT THAT BYTCH!!!
tiburon
Banned
KIND OF DISSAPOINTING
ITS KIND OF DISSAPOINTING TO SEE MOST MEMBERS WOULD PAY
THE WHOLE BILL...........READ THE ARTICLE ( . )(. ) suggested.....!!!!!!
ITS KIND OF DISSAPOINTING TO SEE MOST MEMBERS WOULD PAY
THE WHOLE BILL...........READ THE ARTICLE ( . )(. ) suggested.....!!!!!!
Chemistry
Master Don Juan
The bill comes and I'll catch it... but the skill is in givin the girl you're with such a good time that she feels she has to contribute to the price, and for the past year or so this has always been the case... I step out to pay like it ain't a thing but she wants to pay
Works out as the best of both worlds... no little nervous wait to see if she's gonna dip into her purse, no workin out who owes what on the bill... you take control of the situation, show that you could quite easily catch the bill yourself, but then don't have the same financial burden as if you'd caught it yourself...
If you're talkin Starbucks or some kinda joint like that, then she's more than capable of buyin her **** straight up...
Works out as the best of both worlds... no little nervous wait to see if she's gonna dip into her purse, no workin out who owes what on the bill... you take control of the situation, show that you could quite easily catch the bill yourself, but then don't have the same financial burden as if you'd caught it yourself...
If you're talkin Starbucks or some kinda joint like that, then she's more than capable of buyin her **** straight up...