"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Pay the bill?
- Thread starter ChesterB
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Shadow Dancer
Senior Don Juan
Other times I'll pay for it and say, "I'll get it this time, you can get it next time.".
Simple x 2.
Whatever you do, as long as you KNOW you're not trying to impress her, you'll be fine whether you pay or not. If you really KNOW you're not trying to impress her, she'll know it too.
If it's a basic "meet and greet" kind of thing (i.e. a pre-date), then we pay for our own stuff.
Leon Phelps
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Starman
Master Don Juan
MOST AFC's have a certain type of personality where during the date, they do EVERYTHING wrong
They dont qualify the chick
They are too worried about making an impression
They are too scared to be c/f
They supplicate
They pay for bills and take girls shopping
Now, paying for the BILL isnt going to make you AFC in her eyes..but if you have all the above makings of AFCness, paying the bill only confirms her suspicions of you trying to impress her
Now if on a date, you have been c/f, teased her, qualifyed her, neg hit her, etc
Paying the bill will only make you look like a gentleman ( dont buy this entire crap that paying for a bill will make or break your game)
Its usually the AFC persona coupled with paying the bill that is your deathcall
The only reason I split 50/50, is because I want to avoid "professional daters"
women who go out for free meals and drinks, and to brag to their friends
Its hard to spot which girl is nice or using you
so I just Split 50/50 to be safe
I have had dates were the chick IMMEDIATELY paid for the entire bill, in that scenario, on a 2nd , 3rd date I would BUY her next meal
WaterTiger
Master Don Juan
( . )( . )
Banned
why the phuck would you pay for her? does she deserve YOUR money somehow for going out with you?Originally posted by ChesterB
On a date, esp. the first date, would you pay the bill for you both, split it or even ask her to pay it?
Consider a coffee date.
straight down the middle, everytime 50/50 OR il get this one you get the next.
did i mention NEVER PAY FOR HER?
and get busy reading this then read it again until there is ABSOLUTELY no doubt in your mind.
( . )( . )
Banned
bullsh!t , you and gigalo couldnt be further from the truth, she accepted to go out with you, you didnt make her, you actually sound like you should feel obliged to pay because she may have had "something" better to do than be in the presence of an actual man, ....................pay for her time?Originally posted by Mr. Latte
I'm all for the tried and true method...the person who asks pays.
i say, yeah maybe when hell freezes over.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
tiburon
Banned
( . )( . ) dude i dont know were you get your insights men but i take mi hat off to you....
I dont remeber the last time i payed for my first date ....probably in middle schooll...Why? for excactly what ( . )( . ) said.
Paying for a first date has two things to it...first is an easy way to start wrong from the beginning ..second it can be a good test if on a first date because if the woman doesnt even fight you to go 50 - 50 ..**** NEXT THAT BYTCH!!!
tiburon
Banned
ITS KIND OF DISSAPOINTING TO SEE MOST MEMBERS WOULD PAY
THE WHOLE BILL...........READ THE ARTICLE ( . )(. ) suggested.....!!!!!!
Chemistry
Master Don Juan
Works out as the best of both worlds... no little nervous wait to see if she's gonna dip into her purse, no workin out who owes what on the bill... you take control of the situation, show that you could quite easily catch the bill yourself, but then don't have the same financial burden as if you'd caught it yourself...
If you're talkin Starbucks or some kinda joint like that, then she's more than capable of buyin her **** straight up...