"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Patch up with gf, only to find she has someone during the interim

misoup

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My real brother has this problem this morning.

He was together with his gf for 3years and they broke up 2months ago due to my brother's fault (non cheating related). They were in a 200miles long distance relationship.

They remained broke up for a month and got back a month ago.

During the interim of broke up, they remained in contact. Still having "I love u" talks but she advises my brother to date new people although she "still loves him" my brother is quite cool about it however he didn't date anyone new as he was busy.

So they patched up after sitting down and discuss and now as I can see, they are all good and really close like honeymooners. She moved to stay closer to my brother. All is good

Until this morning.. My brother found out from her phone accidentally that during the interim of break up. She has many photos of his gf with a new guy. Close and intimate photos (except naked). Kissing photos too

My brother was devastated and confronted her calmly. She denied being together with this guy and he is just a "friend" and they are no longer in contact. She is defensive while saying all these. And my brother caught her lying about several details although he has no right to probe into her during the break up period.
My brother and her are in talks, but in a mature way.

So the main question is... Is it considered cheating when his gf has another guy during the interim of break up?? Note that my brother was in contact with her during the break up period.. Which I think she is also stringing both along..

What should he do
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I'll be willing to bet she was with him before the break up... Kissing just as friends? Come on man look at the bigger picture. Long distance should be a no no anyway.
 

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n52 said:
I'll be willing to bet she was with him before the break up... Kissing just as friends? Come on man look at the bigger picture. Long distance should be a no no anyway.
Yes, he also suspects that she was with him while they were together. And my brother is 99% sure they had s3x though she denied
 

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charlezz said:
Yes, he also suspects that she was with him while they were together. And my brother is 99% sure they had s3x though she denied

Go with gut feeling always. move on.
 

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It's actually a tricky one. The reason why his gf broke up with him is because my brother hit her during an argument (first incident and he regretted it). She was very sad and broke up with him. My brother wasn't violent in nature and quite a cool calm guy usually..

Standing in her shoes, it did justify her breaking up with him...

They have reconciled but my brother has a heavy load in his mind... Is she considered cheating?

I am very close with my brother
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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the situation sounds toxic. I say the only choice is to move on.
 

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I don't think my brother can move on from her now as it seems that she has been "performing well" since they patched up. They seem happy until he found the photos yesterday... which causes him to be paranoid for these 2days. We know too well that women can't really forget the lover as women work using emotions..

His concern is.. Is his gf and the guy still in contact?? Is she seeing both guys. Negative emotions working on him..

But seriously, they broke up that time when my brother hit her. In no way I agree that a man needs to raise his fist against a woman..

My advice to my brother is..

Stay together with her, BUT do not stop opening the chance to other potential women.. Give her the benefit of the doubt since now she is treating you well and exhibit high interest.
Should she be dodgy or inconsistent with her behavior, it's time to date someone new. Meanwhile, open his options. She needs to prove herself worth and be consistent for a long period of time

Good advice to my brother?
 

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Dude it's not worth the trouble for this woman. He can get another one. Don't settle.
 

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Not worth it. He is best advised to continue banging her and/ or banging out any last remnants of emotional investment until he reaches indifference. Play their game back on them and don't underestimate their vile nature.
 

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Night-hawk said:
Not worth it. He is best advised to continue banging her and banging out any last remnants of emotional investment. When he reaches indifference he can start finding new plates. Or just leave her ass if he doesn't have it in him to do so.

Do not give these girls an inch. Play their game back on them.
I agree that its not with it. Problem is when emotions are involved its hard to pullback especially if she begins "acting" sweet and loving again. Even if its an act, deep down he will be fighting himself to detach from the emotional side.

Highly recommended to completely pull the plug on this one.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Honestly I think we as men let sheet slide a bit too much. In my last 'relationship' there were red flags in the 2nd month I let go just cuz I wanted to be chill/cool whatever. Red flags need to be shut down with a vengeance by either tell the ho to straighten up or u getting out.
 

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True. That may be better, realizing its common for girls to put on an act to reassure the guy's devotion. Her initial feelings of tension between her and him will cause her to be more affectionate, but careful, because this might be an act just to re-guarantee his devotions like I said, to which when attained, may wear off. And, especially considering that if thoughts like this keep festering in his mind, it will begin seeping out in his behavior, which might be an inevitable road to more impending disaster.

That's cool of you though to watch out for your brother like that. But you know that counsel will only go so far as the person's current mindset will allow it. But, suggestion is helpful.
 

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Back to the original question....okay, your brother hits his gf...she breaks up...she finds another guy and bangs him. No its not cheating....they broke up. Not only did they break up ... she had a good reason for it.
Abe
 

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Let's give women the benefit of the doubt. NOT. There is a difference between trust and just letting something go. Good that your bro stops hitting the lasses, it wasn't appropriate at recess under the monkey bars, and not now.

donking said:
Honestly I think we as men let sheet slide a bit too much. In my last 'relationship' there were red flags in the 2nd month I let go just cuz I wanted to be chill/cool whatever. Red flags need to be shut down with a vengeance by either tell the ho to straighten up or u getting out.
You have to lay it down because people will test what they can get away with. You can raise these sort of things - best when they occur - by being stern and remaining cool mon.
 

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n52 said:
I'll be willing to bet she was with him before the break up... Kissing just as friends? Come on man look at the bigger picture. Long distance should be a no no anyway.
Real... :up:
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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