"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Parents say 'too fvckin quiet' .. wtf man

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I don't know if I'm caring about this too much or what, But I really love my girl and I would do anything for her.. and don't think this is AFCish or whatever, nah.. it's love, I know it is.

Anyway, my concern.. I'm a very quiet person around people, unless I get to know them very well and am around them often. I was quiet around my girl at first.. and now I don't shut up. But that's besides the point... every time I'm around her family, I have nothing to say. I don't know why, I just can't think of anything. I guess im not a good conversationalist.

My girl even told me that her family associates 'quiet people' as 'mean people'. I'm like dude.. wtf is that about? I think it's kinda ridiculous. I don't even care about her family, but in a way I do. The way that I care about them is that I want them to like me. But I don't know how to carry on a conversation with them.

Can anyone help me? I know it's asking for a lot.. but someone, please.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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trajhenkhet02

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sometimes to make a good impression on parents you have to be bold with the opinions. Just don't go overboard (i.e. uber insulting)
 

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whatdude said:
I don't know if I'm caring about this too much or what, But I really love my girl and I would do anything for her.. and don't think this is AFCish or whatever, nah.. it's love, I know it is.

Anyway, my concern.. I'm a very quiet person around people, unless I get to know them very well and am around them often. I was quiet around my girl at first.. and now I don't shut up. But that's besides the point... every time I'm around her family, I have nothing to say. I don't know why, I just can't think of anything. I guess im not a good conversationalist.

My girl even told me that her family associates 'quiet people' as 'mean people'. I'm like dude.. wtf is that about? I think it's kinda ridiculous. I don't even care about her family, but in a way I do. The way that I care about them is that I want them to like me. But I don't know how to carry on a conversation with them.

Can anyone help me? I know it's asking for a lot.. but someone, please.

I know what youre going through, im the same way. Say hi to them and ask how theyre doing. You dont have to chat all day, just shoot the sh*t real quick and then youre done.
 

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You need to go through bootcamp.

traj makes some good points as well. For some reason parents don't like the quiet type, they often like the boldtypes though, as long as you aren't the jerk/bad boy type in front of them you should be ok.
 

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You sound young, just my impression, and I always seemed quiet too when I was younger. It takes a little bit to develop some convo skills. But read the newspaper, some books or whatever your interests are.

I'm no master, but to not seem quiet just start talking about sh!t,

- the weather "wow, its great out I love the sunshine on a summer day"
- sports teams "world cup soccer, Brazil is going to take it all, who are you routing for?" maybe they are into sports maybe not.
- cars "have you seen the new Jeep Commander, that thing rocks"
- pick any visual queues at her parents house and chat it up "wow, that ceramic rooster is quite majestic, where did you get it"

just basically start babbbaling with a point, they will pick up on some thing then let them talk. Mention recent improvements to their house and ask about the work that was done. Tell them about some recent thing you did like a soccer game, band recital or whatever. (not roasting one on the playground)

I know its rough, but I don't think they really believe you are mean, just have fun and realize that people like talk and socialize.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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