"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Pacticing at work??

Diaforetikos

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I keep seeing all these journals and FRs and I'm tired of missing out. I'm tired of waiting. I want to change. So I'm gonna be practicing opening people.

The thing is, since I work so much, I don't get much time to go out. And when I do get time, I can't go anywhere because I share a car with my bro. There aren't any clubs where I live. Nearsest one is 30-40 minutes away.

I really wanna get into this, so I was wondering, is practicing at work a good idea?

I work in retail in a mall so I get a variety of people. But since I'm just starting out, do I risk problems at my job, or do I go for it and say fvck it?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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2crudedudes

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Practice on customers, not co-workers. Co-worker drama is HUGE when sh*t goes wrong. Speaking from experience here. It could cost you your job. With customers, the risk is lower because the worse that could happen is the customer doesn't come back. Not a big deal when you have a mall full of people. However, don't get too pushy with your approaches or they could complain to your manager about you.
 

TheGunslinger

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Diaforetikos said:
I really wanna get into this, so I was wondering, is practicing at work a good idea?
It depends what you're thinking of.

With customers it's fine, as long as you don't come off as a pervert - you start getting complaints for sexual harrassment and you can kiss the job goodbye, although I doubt it'll come to that. Still, I'd probably focus on building up confidence and practice spinning a good conversation out of thin air with them rather than trying to nail them. No point risking your job over some ass, right?

Co-workers? Talk to them, get to know them, get them to recommend you to their hot friends. But for the love of god, do not hit on them.

The good doctorj has put this out there already, but it's worth repeating:

Don't **** where you eat.

Say this to yourself everytime you feel like grabbing a co-worker's ass and you'll be fine.
 

Diaforetikos

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Thanks guys. I appreciate you guys taking time to answer somethin small like this.

You guys seem to be saying the same thing. Luckily I only have two female coworkers. One of is my manager, and she's old. The second is a close friend and her bf is a good friend as well, so coworkers are out of the question.

I am very good with customer service and can strike up conversations with people about anything. My problem is holding the conversation without becoming boring. I'm also trying to steer away from the same old yes or no questions. Just trying to build confidence and not care what anyone says.

As far as work goes today, I'm still here. Haha. It's going good so far. Projecting my voice. Getting quiet customers to laugh. High energy and lots of fun. Since this isn't a FR thread and since nothing great stood out from today, I won't be posting any stories. I'll start a journal thread ASAP.

To Noob: No, Im in the US. And thanks for the input.
To Gunslinger: Hahaha. I love that azz part. Thanks for the heads up.
To 2crudedudes: I'm never pushy. But since I will be practicing I do need to hear that. Thanks
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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