"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Overdoing C/F
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
In the moment it was just a little ****y but afterwards I wondered if it was a "neg". I was just teasing her. I'm not used to putting labels on how I behave.
I wonder if making fun of a dog with a sweater is like making fun of what the woman is wearing, or her child since a lot of women get dogs as their first child.
I was confident and playful. I don't think she was insulted. Yet here I am still worrying about how she perceives me. Hmm.
DavenJuan
Master Don Juan
IMO C&F can be very dangerous. i think you have to be careful becauswe when you apply this to your specific personality you can be misinterpreted.
without c&f im a bit funny and strongliy confident. so when i specifically use c&f it does not come off as uncomfortable for me or even to the women.
if you are more of a timid personality or quite guy, then you turn up the c&f, you CAN look like a jerk.
learn to apply it with your specific personality, and just have fun.
at the end of the day, who really cares what she thinks if that wasnt your intentions.
Yeah I'm not hurting anybody. I just like to tease.
Girls are for teasing and making fun of, at least to me. It works for me so I'm not going to start second guessing myself.
You can achieve the same effect by just calling out girls on things you notice naturally. Don't work to "neghit," a lot of the terminology and theories you seen thrown around on this site are pretty stupid and unnecessary. They do help you learn to experiment from your AFC ways, which ultimately lets you learn how to be a DJ, but as far as effectiveness goes... none of these tactics really work. Work less hard on trying to be C/F and harder on just having a good time FOR YOURSELF.
However, you should be warned. At times a woman may say stuff such as "I can't believe you just said that!" At this point, many guys throw away what they have worked so hard to get - which is a woman's attraction. It's a test to see if you have balls to stand up what you just told her.. but SOMETIMES it's not like that. (There is exceptions to everything.) Do not EVER say something such as, "I was just kidding" etc. Just keep on going, but loosen the ****y, replace it with confidence, and you are in!
There are many minor variables that need to be considered as well. (The age of the girl, what kind of girl she is, etc.) You cannot be too ****y with a very insecure/shy girl, and you cannot be too ****y with younger girls, as most of them are immature. More information would have been nice, but I hope I helped you out! If you have any other questions, feel free to drop me a PM.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
It might be an awkward moment, but it's exactly that... a moment. This C/F stuff really means nothing in the long run. In my opinion, it's not gonna make or break your success with a girl at all.
Axcell said:If you are overdoing it, do not stop. ****y humor is like a topping on the pizza, you don't want too much of it. Most of your pizza is hopefully dough and cheese. Just mix ****y humor whenever you get a good chance, and once you have some sort of rapport with the girl. Also, some examples on this site are much too ****y.. maybe the lines you are using aren't field tested. Try finding more lines that are more funny than ****y, you will get better responses.
However, you should be warned. At times a woman may say stuff such as "I can't believe you just said that!" At this point, many guys throw away what they have worked so hard to get - which is a woman's attraction. It's a test to see if you have balls to stand up what you just told her.. but SOMETIMES it's not like that. (There is exceptions to everything.) Do not EVER say something such as, "I was just kidding" etc. Just keep on going, but loosen the ****y, replace it with confidence, and you are in!
There are many minor variables that need to be considered as well. (The age of the girl, what kind of girl she is, etc.) You cannot be too ****y with a very insecure/shy girl, and you cannot be too ****y with younger girls, as most of them are immature. More information would have been nice, but I hope I helped you out! If you have any other questions, feel free to drop me a PM.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
I say if you have to explain that you were kidding, what you said was obviously not funny and was probably an insult.DoctorLW said:I disagree. If a girl takes offense to something an "I was just kidding" is fine...
Like that one.DoctorLW said:I usually am direct and blunt always, so I tell it like it is: "What, I was just playing. Are you really that insecure?"
Yes, I am well aware about that line. Heard it a couple of month ago from a PUA, Payton Kane, or something a long the lines of that name. However, you should not apologize or say that you were kidding unless you said something that could have been interpreted wrong and you came off as too ****y. (However, it is ****y+funny, you need to make sure you are doing it right to avoid that from happening in the first place.) However, a better thing to say would have been: "Aww poor baby, you aren't THAT insecure, are you?" Strongly stress the "THAT", and have a nice confident voice, and you are in. You shouldn't be rude to girls in the first place, and apologizing sets her as the prize, rather than you.DoctorLW said:I disagree. If a girl takes offense to something an "I was just kidding" is fine. Just depends how you say it. I usually am direct and blunt always, so I tell it like it is: "What, I was just playing. Are you really that insecure?" I don't think I've ever gotten a response back other than "I was kidding too."
It might be an awkward moment, but it's exactly that... a moment. This C/F stuff really means nothing in the long run. In my opinion, it's not gonna make or break your success with a girl at all.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
DoctorLW said:I disagree. If a girl takes offense to something an "I was just kidding" is fine. QUOTE]
I was doing some c&f on a friend of mine(who happens to have a crush on me) and at one point something I said seem offensive to her, and to the entire group.
I think it went along the lines of, "if you're talking about cleaning so much why don't you come be my cleaning lady and i'll give you a dollar for every job".
Everybody at the dinner table just looked me, I didn't pay attention to any one of them, even though I knew they were staring. I kept on eating my food like normal and NEVER tagged "just kidding" at the end of it. I think it is a sign of submission if you say that.
Well, nobody hated me after that, on the contrary everybody in the end seem to have enjoyed my company.
SLY said:You probably said the most interesting thing at the dinner!DoctorLW said:I disagree. If a girl takes offense to something an "I was just kidding" is fine. QUOTE]
I was doing some c&f on a friend of mine(who happens to have a crush on me) and at one point something I said seem offensive to her, and to the entire group.
I think it went along the lines of, "if you're talking about cleaning so much why don't you come be my cleaning lady and i'll give you a dollar for every job".
Everybody at the dinner table just looked me, I didn't pay attention to any one of them, even though I knew they were staring. I kept on eating my food like normal and NEVER tagged "just kidding" at the end of it. I think it is a sign of submission if you say that.
Well, nobody hated me after that, on the contrary everybody in the end seem to have enjoyed my company.