I know you're supposed to just "push through it", but how do you tactfully execute that push? Can someone give me an example (like a field report) detailing how they pushed through LMR. What did you say? how long did you wait to re-initiate after she initially balked at your advances?
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Overcoming LMR
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
thecurtainfalls
Senior Don Juan
First off, I like your signature.
In my experience, 85% or so of last minute resistance is non-verbal. It's rare that I've had a girl actually say "no, stop" or "I'm not ready". This is because usually we'll be making out and I'll be squeezin' her tits or whatever, and then when I go for the vag, a LMR'r will usually just guide my hand back onto her tits.
At this point I wait a few more minutes, try to get her more turned on, and then try again. Space it out like 5 minutes in between attempts. 5 minutes is a long time when your balls are aching and you're both in the heat of passion, so don't be afraid to get back in there. I'd say about two-thirds of the time, the LMR breaks down after my 2nd or 3rd attempt and the girl wants it too much to activate her anti-slut defenses. It's up to you, but honestly after 3 times of trying to grab her cooch if she's still not feeling it it's probably not going to happen. Same goes for escalating from manual stimulation to full on sex, etc. She'll usually do the LMR non-verbally and it's expected that you try at least a couple more times to prove you're not a shivering spineless wimp.
EDIT: DON'T take a rape charge though. A firm or serious "No" means no, 'kay?
In my experience, 85% or so of last minute resistance is non-verbal. It's rare that I've had a girl actually say "no, stop" or "I'm not ready". This is because usually we'll be making out and I'll be squeezin' her tits or whatever, and then when I go for the vag, a LMR'r will usually just guide my hand back onto her tits.
At this point I wait a few more minutes, try to get her more turned on, and then try again. Space it out like 5 minutes in between attempts. 5 minutes is a long time when your balls are aching and you're both in the heat of passion, so don't be afraid to get back in there. I'd say about two-thirds of the time, the LMR breaks down after my 2nd or 3rd attempt and the girl wants it too much to activate her anti-slut defenses. It's up to you, but honestly after 3 times of trying to grab her cooch if she's still not feeling it it's probably not going to happen. Same goes for escalating from manual stimulation to full on sex, etc. She'll usually do the LMR non-verbally and it's expected that you try at least a couple more times to prove you're not a shivering spineless wimp.
EDIT: DON'T take a rape charge though. A firm or serious "No" means no, 'kay?
See the red...thecurtainfalls said:First off, I like your signature.
In my experience, 85% or so of last minute resistance is non-verbal. It's rare that I've had a girl actually say "no, stop" or "I'm not ready". This is because usually we'll be making out and I'll be squeezin' her tits or whatever, and then when I go for the vag, a LMR'r will usually just guide my hand back onto her tits.
At this point I wait a few more minutes, try to get her more turned on, and then try again. Space it out like 5 minutes in between attempts. 5 minutes is a long time when your balls are aching and you're both in the heat of passion, so don't be afraid to get back in there. I'd say about two-thirds of the time, the LMR breaks down after my 2nd or 3rd attempt and the girl wants it too much to activate her anti-slut defenses. It's up to you, but honestly after 3 times of trying to grab her cooch if she's still not feeling it it's probably not going to happen. Same goes for escalating from manual stimulation to full on sex, etc. She'll usually do the LMR non-verbally and it's expected that you try at least a couple more times to prove you're not a shivering spineless wimp.
EDIT: DON'T take a rape charge though. A firm or serious "No" means no, 'kay?
what can I do to get her more turned on without escalating further? Like if we're making out and I'm squeezing her tits, how do I get her more turned on without rubbing her vag?
thecurtainfalls
Senior Don Juan
Start kissing her neck, shoulders, nibble an earlobe, whisper naughty things in her ear. Mix up the way you're kissing her lips. Tease her a little bit.
You only looking at one part of it
to make her want it more you don't step it up
YOU PULL IT BACK
you slow the hell down, and stop touching her. you leave her ass there to experience not getting caressed.
THEN you go back.
do this a few times and she will go for it.
my ffavorite is the good old "turn the lights on go check my email' trick
it always works, just say "its ok i understand" and go do something else.
if she doesn't come back in 1-2 minutes, then come back in 3 and do her.
to make her want it more you don't step it up
YOU PULL IT BACK
you slow the hell down, and stop touching her. you leave her ass there to experience not getting caressed.
THEN you go back.
do this a few times and she will go for it.
my ffavorite is the good old "turn the lights on go check my email' trick
it always works, just say "its ok i understand" and go do something else.
if she doesn't come back in 1-2 minutes, then come back in 3 and do her.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.