"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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over this xmas period should you wait longer before u call?

pete101

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i've got a couple of number 2 days before xmas, and usually i'd call after about 2-3 days.. but since xmas and boxing day have coincided with these 3 days.. plus also its the weekend tomorrow, should i wait a bit longer before i make the calls to set up the 1st dates?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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i like to call on sunday evenings and schedule dates for tuesday or wednesday. but that's just me personally. however if it was tuesday that you got the numbers you may want to do it sooner so they at least remember you!
 

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but in this case xmas and boxing day coincided with that period, so should i wait till after these days?
 

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pete101 said:
i've got a couple of number 2 days before xmas, and usually i'd call after about 2-3 days.. but since xmas and boxing day have coincided with these 3 days.. plus also its the weekend tomorrow, should i wait a bit longer before i make the calls to set up the 1st dates?
I call all the time, but most of my phone calls are not made for the sole purpose of arranging a meet.

I call a few times, chat the girl up, then let her go. This often causes her to actually suggest a meet after just a couple of phone calls, which makes it much easier for me from there on in.
 
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