"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Over-Escalation

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I f-closed a chick on the first date and she hasn't reached out to me. So I sent her a text.

So I really was just a piece of meat.
That's how I feel. Besides you could have sent the first text to me other than that.

Another chick -

BeginningDJ said:
Met Alison (7) at the coffee shop. We had decent conversation good eye contact. I told her, lets take a walk and put my arm around her back. She reciprocated. Conversation shifted to wine and I told her lets get some. We walk to her car and drove to a 7-11. After we had good conversation while sipping on wine in front of a public fountain. I went in for the kiss and she smiled. She apologized for being shy. More conversation and I went in again. This time she stuck her tongue out and we made out. An hour later I excused myself and walked back to her car. She turned to me and leaned in for a kiss on the lips. Perfect!

She texted me 30 minutes later:

Hey BDJ, I had a lot of fun with you today, but I'm really feeling a friend vibe with you, and I don't want to lead you on.

Okay

Mindf*cked. I may have escalated too far.
I'm sure Alison may have other options, but to send me that text 30 minutes later was quite premature.

Your thoughts on too much escalation on the first date?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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My thoughts - Full story from when I PM'd you earlier. Opened a set with a solid 8 in a bar.

A few brief words, left her smiling. A few minutes later she dashed over to me.
"Please - i need you to pretend for me, I told those guys youre my boyfriend"
Green light - Obviously I pin her to the bar and kiss close

Left her alone again.

Few minutes later she comes back again. Brief chat.

Moved over to some seats - had her sat on my lap. Go in for more kissy kissy - " oh I cant"
I laugh "yeah, sure"


"Noooo, I'm seeing someone"

"Seeing? So its not serious then" - Pulls her in again

"Nooo.I cant do that to him"
"Of course you can":D

"Well, you see - I like talking to you as a friend"

Laughs and laughs - "WE aren't friends "
Realises how ridiculous pulling that line really was and joins me laughing


"I have to meet someone now anyway- give me your number."
Does as told "TEXT ME!!!!"
"Na, Ill call"



Had Kino, all IOI's and body laguage pointed to me nailing her that night. Shame really.

I think it was ASD - You move bold and fast, it takes her a moment to catch up.
"OMG I just made out with a stranger - Gotta prove I'm not a slut, But i really wanna bone him"
(Well I like to think that - ALWAYS ASSUME THE SALE)

Perhaps maintaining momentum is crucial here?

Pretty sure its a form of ASD/Sh!t test.

Ill call this chick later In the week. I get a date? you'll know for real. Anything else is just mental masturbation.


Keep on Keepin On.

Edit: SH!T just looked in my fone for her name - I saved it as "Tidy azz, vcute smile":crackup:
 

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The patience required for these games is that of a Zen master, I swear.
 

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Its always better to risk over-escalation than not escalating at all.
 
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JoeMarron said:
Its always better to risk over-escalation than not escalating at all.
I like to see how far I can get and the girls enjoy it. They act fluttery, but when it's over they get hit with buyers remorse.

Pure filth,
Maintaining momentum is crucial in night game. I would have agreed and amplified when she brought up the friends thing. Faze her out, hit on other chicks, disappear and see if she chases. She wants attention, bargain with sex.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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