"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Over-emphasis on C&F on this forum?

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I realize thread title is a tad misleading. I'm more or less asking a question + critique of handling situation.


I went on a date with this Japanese broad last night, things went great. At the end of the date within 5 minutes of me leaving she texts me and tells me that she cannot find me on facebook with a :( smiley.

I tell her to try harder next time and she says she will with a :) smiley.

Anywho, without going into a study of smilies I'm curious today's texting. She sends me a text saying that I should add her next time I see her on there. I thought for a second about saying some C&F stuff but it just didn't feel natural. Just gave her some general reply, "yeah I will look for you next time I'm on". Do you need to strive for the use of C&F if you established a good connection on the first date?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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i think it is a very important aspect of building attraction. however you've gotta know when you are overdoing it. i have had times where girls have gotten irritated because i am way too C/F when texting. gotta be serious at times.
 

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the problem with C & F is it does nothing to build rapport or a connection with women.

Incorporate it into your style but dont rely on it as a cure all. Dont abandone it either..........regardless of where you are in a relationship.

C & F has it merrits ...........and its limitations
 

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usscrum said:
i think it is a very important aspect of building attraction. however you've gotta know when you are overdoing it. i have had times where girls have gotten irritated because i am way too C/F when texting. gotta be serious at times.
Agreed. C+F is an attraction building tool. Once a girl is attracted it's okay to lay off the C+F a bit but don't completely remove it from your game. You did the right thing. There was no need to try and be ****y in this situation because the girl actually went out of her way to look for you on facebook. By having a ****y attitude you just come off like an ******* when you should be rewarding her for her good behavior.
 

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Scars said:
Agreed. C+F is an attraction building tool. Once a girl is attracted it's okay to lay off the C+F a bit but don't completely remove it from your game. You did the right thing. There was no need to try and be ****y in this situation because the girl actually went out of her way to look for you on facebook. By having a ****y attitude you just come off like an ******* when you should be rewarding her for her good behavior.
This kind of summed up why I did not choose to use some smart ass remark. It was my first time out with an Asian so I'm not sure if they are bred different culturally (she is from Japan, semi-decent English, etc. She is not Americanized for the most part) along with like what you said about her going out of her way and showing a great deal of interest.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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wow another version of "CF isnt that great!"
all of these terms and tactics are meant to be learnt and then forgotten, dont you realize? youre missing the point by debating any of this. all of these teachings arent meant to be followed word-by-word, theyre meant to get you into a mindset.
 

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MisterMcGee said:
wow another version of "CF isnt that great!"
all of these terms and tactics are meant to be learnt and then forgotten, dont you realize? youre missing the point by debating any of this. all of these teachings arent meant to be followed word-by-word, theyre meant to get you into a mindset.
Ok, so what's the problem?
 

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itishe said:
I went on a date with this Japanese broad last night, things went great. At the end of the date within 5 minutes of me leaving she texts me and tells me that she cannot find me on facebook with a :( smiley.

I tell her to try harder next time and she says she will with a :) smiley.

Anywho, without going into a study of smilies I'm curious today's texting. She sends me a text saying that I should add her next time I see her on there. I thought for a second about saying some C&F stuff but it just didn't feel natural. Just gave her some general reply, "yeah I will look for you next time I'm on". Do you need to strive for the use of C&F if you established a good connection on the first date?
There are no hard and fast rules, C & F is just a general understanding of how you should act with a girl you are interested in. Alot of people take it to extremes and begin insulting a girl thinking its funny, or act like their God's gift to women thinking its ****y, and neither works.

Her: "You should add me on facebook next time you see me on there."
Itishe: "Yeah I will look for you next time I'm on."


-- > Not a great response, its like want to get rid of her and she's your sister's bratty friend.

Her: "You should add me on facebook next time you see me on there."
You: "Definitely. Wondering if you are available tomorrow afternoon? I would love to take you this this great ice cream store I know around corner where they have the best strawberry flavor."



It all depends how smart you are and how you make her feel. Again guys, you DON"T HAVE TO DIRECTLY ANSWER EVERY QUESTION THE GIRL GIVES YOU.
 

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My whole thing about ****y and funny is I think far to highly of myself to be her personal comedian .. let alone think of something to say unnatural to my character to get her into me..
If your confident it kind of comes natural...
To be honest with you bro this is all bull****
If she's going to let you poke her she'll let you poke her
Just don't say anything stupid
Stay in control
And be confident
 

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I finally added her to facebook. Saw her profile and she has a BF.

Wow FML. Lol
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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