"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Out of town weekend fling

crazymedstudent

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so i've been dating these two girls lately who I find very attractive but who lack in most other areas -- a little too superficial and lack any value besides having fun and hooking up.

anyways, this past weekend one of my good girl friends had a friend from michigan coming to visit NYC for the weekend. Friday night we all went out with a whole bunch of our friends and basically just got boozed up because we had just finished exams. I had a good rapport going with her and thought she was a fun girl.

Next night we end up going out again but it ended up being an early night. Since I had driven into the city and my car was a good walk away, she offered to walk with me as we were all going back to campus anyways. On the walk to my car and drive home I felt a REAL CONNECTION with this girl -- something I haven't felt for any girl in a couple of years.

To makes things short, she ends up staying over at my place Saturday night after another night out in NYC. We had some great sex that night and in the morning. Normally, when a girl spends the night, post-sex I'll just cuddle for 10-20 minutes and then pass out but we ended up talking up a storm until 7am.

Since my friend had to drive her to the airport early in the morning (4am) we didnt do anything crazy sunday night. We ended up going for a walk and just talking about random stuff about life and whatnot.

Basically, she flew back home, we exchanged numbers and I'm sure she will be visiting NYC in the future, but you think I should just let it go?

While I'm sure if I give it enough time I'll get over this girl, I also don't want to let go of a feeling that honestly, comes fairly rarely in life if you ask me. I thought I was being AFCish but to put it in my perspective the two girls I'm dating right now are hotter than this girl.

It was one of those rare occasions where I enjoyed the conversation with her just as much if not more than the sex and honestly I'm finding it hard to let go when I've been really good the past two years about shrugging off other girls.

My question, which I'm most sure the answer is No, is should I even try to pursue when she is a planeride away?

thanks ahead for any input fellow DJs.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

DonJuan11

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crazymedstudent said:
so i've been dating these two girls lately who I find very attractive but who lack in most other areas -- a little too superficial and lack any value besides having fun and hooking up.


To makes things short, she ends up staying over at my place Saturday night after another night out in NYC. We had some great sex that night and in the morning. Normally, when a girl spends the night, post-sex I'll just cuddle for 10-20 minutes and then pass out but we ended up talking up a storm until 7am.

It was one of those rare occasions where I enjoyed the conversation with her just as much if not more than the sex and honestly I'm finding it hard to let go when I've been really good the past two years about shrugging off other girls.

My question, which I'm most sure the answer is No, is should I even try to pursue when she is a planeride away?
You enjoyed talking to a hot girl more than having the sex? Nice.

If you want a long distance relationship, you got to go hard and fast. LDRs don't work, way too much of a chance she'll sleep with another med student or law student.
 
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