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The OP is gone so this looks like a hit and run thread. I'm taking over to fill in some blanks.


Does making a girl laugh really mean attraction, or are you making yourself to be a dancing monkey or clown? If you go on Don Juan Tips there is this thread here:
https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/shock-and-awe-the-apocalypse-opener.137824/

It was recently bumped up with a poster named "YourGreatestFear", and it seems like he's saying that you are more likely to get rejected if you keep dancing around rather than go direct:


What are your thoughts about this thread and in particular that post?
This wasn't directed to me, but I just wanted to jump in because it's interesting.

First, I would say that the apocalypse opener has nothing to do with humor. It's meant to be delivered deadpan serious*.

But back to you other excellent question... Does humor attract a girl or just make the guy a dancing monkey?

First, we have to eliminate the "attraction giggles" piece. If Chad/Chadlite approaches and she giggles at everything he says (even when he's not even trying to be funny), that's another matter. That's a not a humor/comedy skill. He might still be a legitimately funny guy, but we can't separate that from his looks. His buddies (who don't know any better and just observe) will probably say that, "Chad gets all these girls because he's a funny MF-er lol."

Ok, all that aside, let's take an average (or less) looking guy who does have a good sense of humor. I'm still not sure if his humor will actually ATTRACT women. They will enjoy his company. It will certainly reduce or eliminate any risk of him being perceived as "creepy." So it's generally a very good thing. But I fear that he just provides cheap, free entertainment. When the humor dies down (which is has to eventually), the conversation and the attention on him will die down too. Then, she will shift her attention to a more serious/sultry hotter guy.

INB4 someone tells me about the funny fat dude who gets laid a lot lol. I would argue that it's his physical dominance that is attracting the women. The humor is just disarming and icing on the cake. While the humor is an important part of his "game," they aren't F-ing him because he's funny per se. Put the same humor on a skinny, short guy will no muscles and see how it goes.

*In fact, I would argue that many ONS pickups happen with a serious/businesslike tone, not via "giggle your way into her panties." But that's another topic.
 
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Join a support group that has women with similar conditions as you are.

That's your highest probability to get laid.

As for going to cayman Island, what type of treatment are you considering to get done which is not available in your country?
LOL, if there were decent women going to these support groups, there would be hordes of normal men pretending to need support just so they could meet these women.
 

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I wonder how many 26-36 yr old women live with their parents...

My ex (26) still lives with hers. So do her close friends with theirs.
I know one, Blonde, though short muscular legs but decent cute face (athletic). You would think she's lesbian and having played (top athlete) in high school female sports: soccer, volleyball (mainly) etc. that wouldn't be a far off guess, however she's "Christian" and wears it on her shoulder. She works for the family biz for 5+ years now, of course, she's the coddled one at work her brothers, uncles, father all own a share in the biz and it's predominant "blue collar" biz locally. Her new car is Frequently parked at her mom's farmhouse day in and day out (her younger sister, also a hot athlete just graduated and still lives there - I can understand THAT). I don't know her story, but she is surrounded by buff GOOD-Looking country boys at work and outside of work in church everywhere she goes. Still lives at home. She Always laughs at me when she sees me. She's 28 now, time has flown by, I remember seems like yesterday that she was 24. She struck me as kinda retarded sometimes when she'd run up to me for something (I'm talkin 3-4 years ago though), she's not but sporty girls have been hit in the head too much plus the Christian thing rubberizes the mind some. I love Jesus and everything he stood for, just hate Christ-ianity (stolen from the Religion of Zoroastrianism). Anyway, I'm amazed at how a hot little piece of as5 (no t!ts though) is still now swept up by a "great" guy and she's still livin at home, on the farm (land's gotta be worth 2-3 mil at that location).

She Always seems happy when I show up or we run into each other, and I ask her for something to patch up my leg or something went wrong that I needed help with (a bandaid or a fix of some sort), I'm staring down at my leg finagling what she gave me to fix the problem (I can't remember what it was) and 2-3 minutes later I look up (and I could tell someone was watching me as well though my peripheral vision is lessened these days) and she was still staring at me struggling to get it on something that required finesse or woman's hands/fingers. Also, if it's Christmas time she will get the big "Christian" boy making minimum wage working in the office to fetch me home-made cookies that SHE made (and it's damn good) or chocolate truffles whatever. I know all her uncles and brothers etc. We are all on the same page with guns and politics, beliefs (sorta - they're more bluepilled for sure or "trusting" especially in the "system" - they probably believe we landed on the moon too, you know, THAT type). Country music listeners. You'd think she'd have a boy to take care of her in all that environment.
 

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The OP is gone so this looks like a hit and run thread. I'm taking over to fill in some blanks.



Does making a girl laugh really mean attraction, or are you making yourself to be a dancing monkey or clown? If you go on Don Juan Tips there is this thread here:
https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/shock-and-awe-the-apocalypse-opener.137824/

It was recently bumped up with a poster named "YourGreatestFear", and it seems like he's saying that you are more likely to get rejected if you keep dancing around rather than go direct:


What are your thoughts about this thread and in particular that post?



Living on your own is no longer a reasonable option because the living expenses have gone through the roof all across the board. Most homeless people, especially in American cities like Los Angeles, Washington DC, or New York City, actually have full time jobs but because of sky-high rents and other high living expenses, the money is not enough to cover that. Also he has an aging parent. When you have an aging parent, you turn into a babysitter for an adult whether you like it or not. His father may need him there and he can't afford anyone to help take care of his father. That's not a simple solution.
No you shouldn't be a clown to entertain a woman. But women do enjoy a good sense of humor.

If he has to help his father or can't live on his own due to financial concerns he'll have to make due with what he has; however, it is easier when you have your own place. Netflix and chill becomes a bit awkward when your parents are around the corner.
 

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LOL, if there were decent women going to these support groups, there would be hordes of normal men pretending to need support just so they could meet these women.
Support groups for people affected by the disease like cancer and such.

There's normally more women then men who attend these groups. Women are more open for support whilst men are more closed. That's a fact.

What decency r u talking about?
 

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What are ways of handling that too? It seems that people are coming very short on explanations when its coming to address this elephant in the room, but have allot to talk about everything else.
Take them to a hotel/motel. Easy.
 

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Honestly man just get a hooker. At least this will take it off your mind while you can learn game and learn to be more outgoing in the meantime. But you've got to demystify sex and banging a hooker for your first time would do that. She won't judge or get all weird if you have trouble performing or shoot your wad too quickly. Just be straight up honest with her too and she'll more than likely go out of her way to make it awesome for you.
 

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Honestly man just get a hooker. At least this will take it off your mind while you can learn game and learn to be more outgoing in the meantime. But you've got to demystify sex and banging a hooker for your first time would do that. She won't judge or get all weird if you have trouble performing or shoot your wad too quickly. Just be straight up honest with her too and she'll more than likely go out of her way to make it awesome for you.
But the hooker may have demons inside her and they could follow you home and attack you. You dont know if she is part of some clandestine sex cult or has been involved in the occult in the past or even currently. Big risk being exposed to a stranger like that.
 

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But the hooker may have demons inside her and they could follow you home and attack you. You dont know if she is part of some clandestine sex cult or has been involved in the occult in the past or even currently. Big risk being exposed to a stranger like that.
Lol the chick he's talking about at work is probably worse.
 

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Yeah you read that right. I don’t care. It’s time to change this ****.

The reason I’ve always avoided dating is that I suffer from whole-body arthritis and have my entire adult life. The only meaningful treatment option is only available in the Cayman Islands at an exorbitant cost, and my life is organized around saving enough to pay for it. It will take 1-2 more years to pay for my next treatment.

Contrary to what you would expect for a 36 year old virgin, I’m not fat or ugly. I work out intelligently and judiciously and have a better-than-average physique. My disadvantages are that I can’t talk and have no game. I’m a deep introvert and in general just different from everyone else.

Last year I had my first sexual opportunity with a very attractive (for her age) woman 5 years my senior who made aggressive moves on me at work, on whom I had one of the worst oneitis crushes on record. I dated her for five weeks, but was a weak, timid, ***** with a negative attitude, and got humiliatingly rejected without sex. It took me almost a year to get over the sting, but I can confidently say that I don’t feel any kind of way about it anymore, and it definitely changed me in a big way for the better.

This year, my disease has taken a turn for the worse. I don’t know whether I’ll get my treatment, or if I do, that it will work. If I’m going to do this, I better do it now.

The question is: how do pull it off?

I think my best bet is Tinder. The idea of cold-approaching in public places is so unappealing I’m just not realistically going to do it.

In dealing with women, how do I address the following:
  • I’m physically debilitated and always in some pain even if I don’t look it.
  • I live a very inexpensive lifestyle (live with my aging father in our delapidated house, buy clothes at Costco) to save $$.
  • I work a job just for the money and have literally zero passion for it, and work every hour I can get. I make $15/hr in a call center.
  • I’m a virgin (do I admit it?)
  • I have few friends and no social life.
  • I can’t take her home, so she has to take me to her place.
  • Other than exercise, which I’m losing as my disease progresses, I have no real hobbies other than ****ing around online.
  • I cannot stress enough how **** of a conversational I am.
My standards will be the same as if I had a normal life. I am not going to stick my **** in just anything with a warm hole.

Thoughts?
Oh my god this is absolutely a case to get yourself hooked up with some escorts. I promise you it is awesome
 

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Women dont give a ****e where you have sex if they're into you.
I've done it in cemetery's,cars, back of a van, park bench, fields etc.One girl yanked out her tampon,threw it into the hedge and got on all fours in the middle of a footpath in a wood lol.
Work on your game and appearance and the sex will take care of itself.
 

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But the hooker may have demons inside her and they could follow you home and attack you. You dont know if she is part of some clandestine sex cult or has been involved in the occult in the past or even currently. Big risk being exposed to a stranger like that.
Dude come on. Do you believe in unicorns and magical faeries too?
 
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