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Online Woman Are Immoral Scum Bags!!

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Honestly IMO this is the best answer and I find it to be true. For example I get approached all the time by the type man I prefer in real life (and I circulate in circles where these people are)...and desirable men do the same thing.

So why then would I be doing OLD? I don't need to. My calendar is as full as I'd like at any given time without doing that.

I think if a man just wants extra bandwidth to get the lay or gain experience OLD might be useful, but otherwise it is impossible to sufficiently filter via OLD. This was what I found to be true when I first re-entered the dating market as an attractive woman.

OLD casts much too wide a net to be able to filter much at all. I found it to be an absolute waste of time. I do know two married couples who met on Match, but I found Match to be far too time consuming/distracting to take seriously.

If you want more than a ONS you are better off to figure out what kind of woman you would like to meet and then put yourself into venues where that type of woman exists. This will immediately and substantially increase your odds.

Of course that also means you are going to need the skillset to approach successfully in real life, but if you just commit to do it you'll get better.
I know you're trying to "help" with your posts and this is actually sound advice. But you also need to cut the crap too.

If you get approached by the type of man you like "so often".. why are you still single? Just wh0ring around or what?

And if only trash is online.. then why were you EVER online?
 

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So i had a date with this girl from pof yesterday, last minute she cancelled and gave me some bull crap about her car breaking down..

She then made a counter offer to meet today at 5pm.. She even sent me a text confirming the date at 5pm

I got ready, dressed, shaved, showered etc... She the cancelled over some pretty lie, just 30 minutes before the day..

I swear they do it JUST FOR FUN they have no intention of meeting, but these woman are so fuking pathetic uncaring of other peoples time, so inconsiderate of other people's feelings..

They simply don't give a fuk.. Why would a grown ass woman behave like this?

I don't blame guys for treating these online girls like *** DUMPSTERS

That is all they deserve.. Rant over lol

Bro I really enjoy your post

Your experience is typical, don't take it personal bro, I know it sucks.

One thing I've learned you gotta keep an abundant mindset, frustration comes from scarcity

Another thing is OLD attracts a certain type, IME you're better of meeting club/bar chicks are they any better? probably not but they tend to be hotter

Supplement your online dating with Field work

Just my 02.cents
 

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Online chicks are.....

I met this girl on POF....

The world of dating online is not POF.

Think of POF as the most run down neighbourhood in town. Then replace your post with that neighbourhood instead of "online dating"
 

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How many STD's did you catch in the process?
anytime someone brags about having such a high number in that short amount of time, I'm always skeptical about the quality.
Not dissing you just being honest
Some were quality, some were not. Mostly 6's'- 8's.
Just because a girl is hot doesn't mean she is quality. Never got an STD.
I was with an 8 the other night. Prior to meeting - I refused her, disappeared, dated other women, cancelled two dates with her, refused to take to her dinner, and basically drove her nuts to the point where she was begging me to come over. I even cancelled on that.
Then three nights ago....I said...."ok I will come over, but cannot stay long."
I went over to her place and closed the deal.
No weak behavior, high emotional strength. If she had rejected me, I would have been ok with that and walked off. No drama.
Women don't control my emotions. I do.
 
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Men calling women names only empowers them (and in the case of bitter old women calling younger, hotter women names, empowers men).
 

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No, not all of them were quality. Mostly 6's'- 8's. Somewhat cute to very attractive women. Not hot runway models.
Just because a girl is hot doesn't mean she is quality either. Never got an STD.
I laid down an 8 the other night. Much younger than me. I refused her, disappeared, dated other women, cancelled two dates with her, refused to take to her dinner, and basically drove her nuts to the point where she was begging me to come over. I even refused that.
Then three nights ago....I said...."ok I will come over, but cannot stay long."
Sex followed.
Again, no weak behavior, high emotional strength. If she had rejected me I would have been ok with that too, smiled and walked off.
You banged over 100 women online and didn't get an STD?

Bullshyt.
 

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They're only 'immoral' to the extent that you don't have enough options to exercise a similar degree of agency.

Is it 'fair' that girls, for a short period of their life, have the ability to cultivate far more passive options than men? No, not really. But no amount of judgment from your end will change the situations--it will only make you unhappy, reinforce your own lack of agency, and prevent you from maximizing the opportunities you do have available to you.

Stop playing the victim. It's the #1 least productive behavior any man can have.
 

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Long gone are the days where I schedule one date on one night with one girl I never met. To me, such an act is absurd--a gamble of your most valuable resource--TIME.

Double- and triple-book dates at the same place and time. Some will flake, most won't. If you are lucky enough to have all three appear, then enjoy the fireworks.
 

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Long gone are the days where I schedule one date on one night with one girl I never met. To me, such an act is absurd--a gamble of your most valuable resource--TIME.

Double- and triple-book dates at the same place and time. Some will flake, most won't. If you are lucky enough to have all three appear, then enjoy the fireworks.
You're a guru yet you get this level of flaking?

In years of OLD I had one flake and that was 3 hours before.

3 women turn up on the same date? What the fvck? Are you actually doing this and has it happened?
 

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You're a guru yet you get this level of flaking?
All the time. If you don't get flakes on OLD first dates, this is an indication that you are building too much rapport with them pre-date--and thus expending your most valuable resource--TIME. When you schedule dates within 1-2 messages on OLD (especially in the 8-9 club), you will get flakes.

I have no interest in mitigating flakes by building rapport. I'm interested only minimizing time and maximizing dates. On an average weekend I will schedule 10 dates, at least one or two will flake, I will cancel/reschedule four, and meet 4-5.

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3 women turn up on the same date? What the fvck? Are you actually doing this and has it happened?
Read some of my threads/field reports.
 

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who can see through it
I had a couple girls tell me they had herpes on the first meeting, of course I never banged them and thank God i'm clean
But a 100 girls? and not one STD lmfaooooo
Very possible. I have no STDs.
 

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All the time. If you don't get flakes on OLD first dates, this is an indication that you are building too much rapport with them pre-date--and thus expending your most valuable resource--TIME. When you schedule dates within 1-2 messages on OLD (especially in the 8-9 club), you will get flakes.

I have no interest in mitigating flakes by building rapport. I'm interested only minimizing time and maximizing dates. On an average weekend I will schedule 10 dates, at least one or two will flake, I will cancel/reschedule four, and meet 4-5.

Read some of my threads/field reports.
Ah, you and I are in the game for different reasons. I am not here to bang hundreds of chicks. However, if I do aspire to this, I am sure your approach is superior..
 

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Ah, you and I are in the game for different reasons. I am not here to bang hundreds of chicks. However, if I do aspire to this, I am sure your approach is superior..
What are you looking for, a committed relationship with a loyal woman who will stay with you and serve you till death do you part? LOL!
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Either using condoms every time, or bullshyt. STDS are common as fvck dude.
I use condoms (and tons of viagra by preference), but even with condoms, you can catch STDs by juice flow below the condom. I reject any bad karma that you may be projecting, but no STDs.
 

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stop your beta posting please
What are you looking for, a committed relationship with a loyal woman who will stay with you and serve you till death do you part? LOL!
I use condoms (and tons of viagra by preference), but even with condoms, you can catch STDs by juice flow below the condom. I reject any bad karma that you may be projecting, but no STDs.
Why so upset?
 

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Double-booking is what I do too at same venue. Not because of flaking but to be "higher value" and in demand.
I will tell them after 1 hour of date....that "I have to leave because I am meeting someone else, but I enjoyed meeting you and would like to see you again. "
Every single of them agreed to meet for second date. Always be closing.
 

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Double-booking is what I do too at same venue. Not because of flaking but to be "higher value" and in demand.
I will tell them after 1 hour of date....that "I have to leave because I am meeting someone else, but I enjoyed meeting you and would like to see you again. "
Every single of them agreed to meet for second date and closed the deal.

Now I am being respectful, aloof, a challenge and the girl wants me more because I am a challenge to her.
I look at it as effective time management, which leaves me more time to focus on things that I really care about.
 
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