"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I messaged this girl near me today, tried to isolate as soon as I could, but failed. She wouldn't give out her MSN, so I sent a few more messages and we messaged back and forth. Long story short, I just asked her onece more if she would like to chat on MSN, because I'm really getting sick of signing in to that site just to reply to her and she said no. So here's what I'm thinking...I drop it for now and forget about her for a while. I sent her my e-mail in one of the messages so that she can add it when she wants, but now I'm thinking that was my mistake.

I am going to cut her out, but what I need your help with is...should I message her in a day or two if nothing happens?

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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I like the Arkansas Razorbacks and the Chicago Bears more than I like Internet dating.

Seriously, you need to do more real world dating. Your case is one of the many which caused me to give up internet dating.

She's just not that into you. You cried by telling her you were getting sick of singing in. DESPERATION!!! You showed it! Now you'll have to try elsewhere.

Cheers!
 

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well WE would have to see your original email and her response.

U got her interest.........not really sure how U isolate a girl online......as you seem to be applying Mystery method (m3 model) with virtual seduction. There are some differences with net seduction, I will assume (since I have no info to CSI from you) you did not build enough interest from her to enlicit the info extaction.

Net dating requires some patience and some skills.........going for the # too fast especially with a hot chic screams JAG (just another guy).

The Devil can't make you do things outright..........it has to be FREE WILL......so you got to make this chic WANT to give you her number. GIVE HER A REASON to want to converse with you on the phone.

The tactic "my fingers are sore, tired of virtual conversation" may be sound, but it all comes down to timing and your overall tonality or virtual demeanor. If your online persona comes across and smooth and natural.........you are in.

I think you are on the right track, just need a little calibration.........it could also be that specific girl. You may have to chalk this up to a screw up on your part and next her, re-claibrate, then move on.
 

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OH ISOLATE AS IN GETTING MSN OR INSTANT MESSAGE---well I guess that could possible be associated with virtual isolation.

Women often carry on with 3-4 guys at once while I.M. (look for a time lag when conversing thru I.M's)

If you are exchanging emails, dont you already have her "isolated".

Extraction of her info may be as simple as rewording your emails.......she could be just at her fill of spinning too many virtual plates. Hot chics get overwhelmed with IM's, fan mail, guys hitting on them........in this case its the burnt out factor coming into play........good luck with these types.
 

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Well, we exchanged 10 messages back and forth through this site. I was truly getting sick of having to sign in to reply to her, I wasn't just saying that because I wanted her SN. My last message to her read that if she wants to add me, that option is there for her, but if not, it's her loss. Then after I sent her another one basically changing my entire approach and suggested that we meet for a brief amount of time so that we could chat in person. That didn't go over too well, as I should have figured.

Also I asked her what she's like in one of the messages and she replied with "easy going, chill, and relaxed"....last I checked, those were all the same things. All her responses were very brief and no longer than 2 lines of text. As far as I'm concerned, nexting her seems like the best option right now. Sag off her, and she may come back.

So, seriously...what the fvck do I have to do to get any girl to chat with me through IM. It just seems like way too much work. I wouldn't mind it if she were to talk to me in person and it took a while to coax her into liking me, but online, it's just too 'impersonal' and superficial. Online sarging seems to be much harder than real world sarging.

For now, I'm going to sag off her for the next few weeks, and if no interest is shown from her side by then, I'm definitely moving on. Thanks guys!
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Next time just have some more patience.. If you are going to be successful using online dating you really need to take it slow and just chill. If she is feeling a connection or wants to talk to you 99 out of 100 times she will offer up her information to you... Something along the lines of "hey I don't get on here too often (not true) but here's my IM name" and sometimes they will even toss their phone number and tell you to text them.. All chicks love to text man..

The one thing you can't do with online dating is try and isolate or work too quickly..

Make sure you are talking to more than one woman at a time too brother
 

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That's funny...I've emailed several women but only this one replied. I've had my profile reviewed and was told it was more than good enough, but still no responses. Any way I can increase response rates? Thanks!
 

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sheesh U guys need some insight...............MY BOOK IS FREE FOR 1 in need of some ACTUAL EMAILS THAT REAP RESPONSES..........yup cut n paste for you to sit back ad watch your inbox fill up.

mj
 

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You know women on dating sites get approached by loads more men than men get approached by women. IF she is not giving you her MSN, and you dont contact her, i dont think you will hear back from her.

Personally, i would move on. Make sure your first message to women is really catchy. Read there profiles and make sure its personal rather than a random line most people use.
 

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OK...when you're online dating, you have to spin far more plates than you would in real life...as there's less to lose on there (and the places are always sausage fests) they can drop you like a hot potato whenever they want.

Back when I did it more often (it's more or less an on-and-off thing now), I had some nights where I'd chat with one for about 30 minutes or so, say I was signing off, and then go on invisible and chat with another (while chatting with a third on another IM system). Don't worry about being ethical until you're actually dating them.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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WHEN U GET LOW INTEREST its cause you are catching them at a bad time....or way too many guys contacting her.

SWITCH TIMES, then ADD MORE FULE TO YOUR IM'S, EMAILS, ETC
 
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