Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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I messaged this girl near me today, tried to isolate as soon as I could, but failed. She wouldn't give out her MSN, so I sent a few more messages and we messaged back and forth. Long story short, I just asked her onece more if she would like to chat on MSN, because I'm really getting sick of signing in to that site just to reply to her and she said no. So here's what I'm thinking...I drop it for now and forget about her for a while. I sent her my e-mail in one of the messages so that she can add it when she wants, but now I'm thinking that was my mistake.

I am going to cut her out, but what I need your help with is...should I message her in a day or two if nothing happens?

Cheers!
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I like the Arkansas Razorbacks and the Chicago Bears more than I like Internet dating.

Seriously, you need to do more real world dating. Your case is one of the many which caused me to give up internet dating.

She's just not that into you. You cried by telling her you were getting sick of singing in. DESPERATION!!! You showed it! Now you'll have to try elsewhere.

Cheers!
 

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well WE would have to see your original email and her response.

U got her interest.........not really sure how U isolate a girl online......as you seem to be applying Mystery method (m3 model) with virtual seduction. There are some differences with net seduction, I will assume (since I have no info to CSI from you) you did not build enough interest from her to enlicit the info extaction.

Net dating requires some patience and some skills.........going for the # too fast especially with a hot chic screams JAG (just another guy).

The Devil can't make you do things outright..........it has to be FREE WILL......so you got to make this chic WANT to give you her number. GIVE HER A REASON to want to converse with you on the phone.

The tactic "my fingers are sore, tired of virtual conversation" may be sound, but it all comes down to timing and your overall tonality or virtual demeanor. If your online persona comes across and smooth and natural.........you are in.

I think you are on the right track, just need a little calibration.........it could also be that specific girl. You may have to chalk this up to a screw up on your part and next her, re-claibrate, then move on.
 

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OH ISOLATE AS IN GETTING MSN OR INSTANT MESSAGE---well I guess that could possible be associated with virtual isolation.

Women often carry on with 3-4 guys at once while I.M. (look for a time lag when conversing thru I.M's)

If you are exchanging emails, dont you already have her "isolated".

Extraction of her info may be as simple as rewording your emails.......she could be just at her fill of spinning too many virtual plates. Hot chics get overwhelmed with IM's, fan mail, guys hitting on them........in this case its the burnt out factor coming into play........good luck with these types.
 

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Well, we exchanged 10 messages back and forth through this site. I was truly getting sick of having to sign in to reply to her, I wasn't just saying that because I wanted her SN. My last message to her read that if she wants to add me, that option is there for her, but if not, it's her loss. Then after I sent her another one basically changing my entire approach and suggested that we meet for a brief amount of time so that we could chat in person. That didn't go over too well, as I should have figured.

Also I asked her what she's like in one of the messages and she replied with "easy going, chill, and relaxed"....last I checked, those were all the same things. All her responses were very brief and no longer than 2 lines of text. As far as I'm concerned, nexting her seems like the best option right now. Sag off her, and she may come back.

So, seriously...what the fvck do I have to do to get any girl to chat with me through IM. It just seems like way too much work. I wouldn't mind it if she were to talk to me in person and it took a while to coax her into liking me, but online, it's just too 'impersonal' and superficial. Online sarging seems to be much harder than real world sarging.

For now, I'm going to sag off her for the next few weeks, and if no interest is shown from her side by then, I'm definitely moving on. Thanks guys!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Next time just have some more patience.. If you are going to be successful using online dating you really need to take it slow and just chill. If she is feeling a connection or wants to talk to you 99 out of 100 times she will offer up her information to you... Something along the lines of "hey I don't get on here too often (not true) but here's my IM name" and sometimes they will even toss their phone number and tell you to text them.. All chicks love to text man..

The one thing you can't do with online dating is try and isolate or work too quickly..

Make sure you are talking to more than one woman at a time too brother
 

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That's funny...I've emailed several women but only this one replied. I've had my profile reviewed and was told it was more than good enough, but still no responses. Any way I can increase response rates? Thanks!
 

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sheesh U guys need some insight...............MY BOOK IS FREE FOR 1 in need of some ACTUAL EMAILS THAT REAP RESPONSES..........yup cut n paste for you to sit back ad watch your inbox fill up.

mj
 

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You know women on dating sites get approached by loads more men than men get approached by women. IF she is not giving you her MSN, and you dont contact her, i dont think you will hear back from her.

Personally, i would move on. Make sure your first message to women is really catchy. Read there profiles and make sure its personal rather than a random line most people use.
 

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OK...when you're online dating, you have to spin far more plates than you would in real life...as there's less to lose on there (and the places are always sausage fests) they can drop you like a hot potato whenever they want.

Back when I did it more often (it's more or less an on-and-off thing now), I had some nights where I'd chat with one for about 30 minutes or so, say I was signing off, and then go on invisible and chat with another (while chatting with a third on another IM system). Don't worry about being ethical until you're actually dating them.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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WHEN U GET LOW INTEREST its cause you are catching them at a bad time....or way too many guys contacting her.

SWITCH TIMES, then ADD MORE FULE TO YOUR IM'S, EMAILS, ETC
 
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