"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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So if this all goes well and Dave marries this woman and has kids, does that mean we will see the last of his posting?

BTW, Dave's talked a lot about what age does to a woman, has he thought about what pregnancy does to them?
"My wife is turning 50 but her skin doesn't look like a 20 year old like I predicted. Should I find a woman who is at my level? I'm a 0.000001% male and I think I can do better."
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I think she's gonna like him initially and within 3 dates (definitely before sex) he's gonna screw it up or disqualify her because he saw 1 gray hair or something
More like she's going to disqualify him after he struggles with her bra for 20mins then gives up and just pulls it up around her neck lol
 

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nah I'm sure we'll get along great in real life

we're very attracted to each other physically and seem to be very similar personality wise

I'm not worried
Probably shouldn't talk about it till u hit it. You need to be out of analysis mode.
 

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As funny as those predictions may seem, they are based in Dave's reality. The one hope I have is the woman occupies his time so he has less inclination to post crap on this forum. But alas that is a bridge to far. I have no doubt Dave will muck this up somehow, I mean really his ego couldn't stand someone being prettier than he imagines himself to be. But rest assured it won't be his fault in ANY way.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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As funny as those predictions may seem, they are based in Dave's reality. The one hope I have is the woman occupies his time so he has less inclination to post crap on this forum. But alas that is a bridge to far. I have no doubt Dave will muck this up somehow, I mean really his ego couldn't stand someone being prettier than he imagines himself to be. But rest assured it won't be his fault in ANY way.
my last 4 women I've been out with all had sex with me and wanted to date me long term

but this one is the most attractive who has no kids. i had a very attractive chick heavily into me i had sex with for 2 months but she was a single mom

i can almost guarantee you i won't screw it up
 
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Dave all jokes aside have fun, enjoy the date, good to see that you’re getting out there :).
 

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I'm pretty excited to hear how this date goes tomorrow, I've got my popcorn ready

don't skip a single interesting detail fam
 

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she cancelled on me after texting me all week and telling me like 3 times she's excited to see me

Weird, oh well, back on the horse
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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she cancelled on me after texting me all week and telling me like 3 times she's excited to see me

Weird, oh well, back on the horse
Get sum easy puzzy for the next three weeks.

Im going to be fvcking all weekend. Fvck complaining
 

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she cancelled on me after texting me all week and telling me like 3 times she's excited to see me

Weird, oh well, back on the horse
What did she say exactly?

See this is why we were all jesting you for already imagining having kids with her. This is so typical of us men, one smile from a woman and we start planning retirement with her.

I agree, best to keep chit chat to a bare minimal because a lot of women in OLD are simply looking for attention, they don't intend to meet you unless they genuinely like you. You can't know if they do until they meet you, and then fvck you.
 

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What did she say exactly?

See this is why we were all jesting you for already imagining having kids with her. This is so typical of us men, one smile from a woman and we start planning retirement with her.

I agree, best to keep chit chat to a bare minimal because a lot of women in OLD are simply looking for attention, they don't intend to meet you unless they genuinely like you. You can't know if they do until they meet you, and then fvck you.
she said she has too much going on and right now is not a good time to go on dates

she gave me her number quickly and agreed to a date quickly. She texted me yesterday that she's looking forward to seeing me, what the hell changed in 24 hours?
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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What did she say exactly?

See this is why we were all jesting you for already imagining having kids with her. This is so typical of us men, one smile from a woman and we start planning retirement with her.

I agree, best to keep chit chat to a bare minimal because a lot of women in OLD are simply looking for attention, they don't intend to meet you unless they genuinely like you. You can't know if they do until they meet you, and then fvck you.
You see you can't do that. Man needs to have sex.
 

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Translation...there's another guy...maybe her ex.

Keep hunting...
that's what I was thinking too

I need to get new pics done to do OLD. My 3 pics rated between a 6 to 7.6 on photofeeler. I need to get some pics that rate around 9/10.

Cold approaching in real life is incredibly hard
 

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that's what I was thinking too

I need to get new pics done to do OLD. My 3 pics rated between a 6 to 7.6 on photofeeler. I need to get some pics that rate around 9/10.

Cold approaching in real life is incredibly hard
Its incredibly easy. You Say hello to women whove given a strong IOI. Small talk. Ask them to text you . Move onto the next.

Never have interest in any babe that aint worried bout u.
 

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@bigdave17 first of all she doesnt know you at all so dont think it was anyhing you did, second of all, you need to not get ahead of yourself in these sitautions, ever again
 

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@bigdave17 first of all she doesnt know you at all so dont think it was anyhing you did, second of all, you need to not get ahead of yourself in these sitautions, ever again
I know, I already admitted that I want to meet someone so badly that I find myself falling very fast

The weird thing is she texted me 18 hours ago that she was very excited to see me. What changes in a day?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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