"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Online dating - Approach Science

like2jam

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So, after trying a variety of tactics or message approaches to see what works and what doesn't.

I sent the following message to fairly attractive mid 30's woman:

Me: Question. Does it really matter what a guy says to you? I mean, let's face it, if you're not attracted, you're gonna skip over him like a pothole. If you're really attracted, almost anything that isn't insulting, stupid or mean would do the trick. Agreed?

Her: Agreed.

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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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TillTheEndOfTime

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100% true. I've been saying so for as long as I have been commenting on posts about "witty" profiles or openers.

Bottom line, you send a message and she immediately looks at your profile. Attractive? She responds. Not attractive? She ignores and deletes.

Pretty simple. Game is irrelevant online to a great extent.

Edit: Keep in mind that "attractive" from the perspective of girls online has been taken to delusional levels. For a girl, a man is attractive if he is at least 2 points more attractive than her. That is; if she's a 6, you need to be an 8 for her to consider you "attractive". I posted a survey here a long time ago from OKC. It found that women rated 80% of men online as below average in looks. That is ridiculous.
 

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TillTheEndOfTime said:
100% true. I've been saying so for as long as I have been commenting on posts about "witty" profiles or openers.

Bottom line, you send a message and she immediately looks at your profile. Attractive? She responds. Not attractive? She ignores and deletes.

Pretty simple. Game is irrelevant online to a great extent.
Until you get her on a date and you are a boring wet rag who's only confident from behind a computer screen. That puts you in the "nextzone" / creeper category.

Thats where Game comes in. So Keep skillsets sharp.
 

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TillTheEndOfTime said:
Edit: Keep in mind that "attractive" from the perspective of girls online has been taken to delusional levels. For a girl, a man is attractive if he is at least 2 points more attractive than her. That is; if she's a 6, you need to be an 8 for her to consider you "attractive". I posted a survey here a long time ago from OKC. It found that women rated 80% of men online as below average in looks. That is ridiculous.
This is really good to keep it mind. Especially when you're wondering why so many 7s are acting like they are 9s and 10s online.
 

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Man I put out so many messages last night it was crazy and only got one receptive girl. Its very difficult online.

Just last night this b!tch messages me back and says: "Is this your usual pick up line?" Why even message back if you're just going to be an a$$?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Hey, I even had this hotty who favorited me, rated me highly and then decided to not respond when I messaged her a day later. I'm still scratching my head on that one.

On the plus side, I have a tentative date scheduled with a hotty in a couple of weeks. She contacted me two years ago. I found her old message and decided to contact her. She's into it. Although I think she'd just be a fwb type of woman.
 

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like2jam said:
Hey, I even had this hotty who favorited me, rated me highly and then decided to not respond when I messaged her a day later. I'm still scratching my head on that one.

On the plus side, I have a tentative date scheduled with a hotty in a couple of weeks. She contacted me two years ago. I found her old message and decided to contact her. She's into it. Although I think she'd just be a fwb type of woman.
haha this has had happened with me so many times.

I'd think to myself okay she made the first move , I'd do the courtesy of messaging her and then no response or stupid responses. I just cut off right away and scratch my head over that lol
 
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