You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
This interaction was pure garbage, seems as if you were talking to your grandma. I dont know why you even wasted your time posting it.harkkam08 said:Here is another rapport building chat I tired with her. I dont get it. She just didnt respond to my last mssg.
me(11:01:49 PM)hey there
her(11:02:00 PM)hey
me(11:02:39 PM)how was your weekend?
her(11:03:07 PM)it was good, yours?
me(11:03:28 PM)lots of BBQ and fireworks....
her(11:03:47 PM)yeahhhhh
her(11:03:49 PM)mine too
me(11:04:15 PM)did you see the macy's firework display?
her(11:04:41 PM)no i didnt
her(11:04:42 PM)did you?
me(11:05:34 PM)nope....my neighbors are all pyro maniacs almost everybody was doing fireworks in my neighborhod
me(11:06:07 PM)some idiot at 2:00 oclock in the morning let off like three massive ones woke everyone up
her(11:06:15 PM)lol niceee
her(11:06:25 PM)you always have those for some reason
me(11:07:05 PM)i know....but we laughed about it later.....the best part is all the left overs
her(11:07:20 PM)lol yea
me(11:07:44 PM)do you know how to grill?
her(11:08:00 PM)ummmmmmm
her(11:08:02 PM)sure?
her(11:08:04 PM)lol
me(11:08:22 PM)lol...not sure....
me(11:08:37 PM)its not hard....and its alot of fun
she didnt respond after that
Racist prickRescue Mission said:white girls generally don't like Indian guys....can we please stop avoiding facts??
You are a pretty good looking INDIAN guy, and that's fine.......but it's much easier for you to hook up with Indian and Middle Eastern girls, white girls are just not into Indian guys........stop trying to sell ice cream to an eskimo.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
n00bPimp said:Racist prick
You can create attraction on any girl if you have game, nobody said theres rules. I'm sure if i asked a white girl what kind of guy do they want they'll say the usual - tall, blonde, blue eyes. But does it matter? or better yet, do they end up dating these type of guys? they end up dating the guy that has game. Ever heard of "attraction isn't a choice"?Rescue Mission said:Do you know what the word racist means?
I have nothing against Indian people, they are cool and fun and I see them the same way as all other kinds of people.
I am saying that a WHITE GIRL is generally, GENERALLY, not sexually attracted to an Indian guy. I don't know or care WHY they aren't attracted to Indian guys, but they aren't.......it's not my goddamn fault, so don't be calling ME a racist prick..........go call the white chicks racist b1tches if you want to be ignorant.
What's wrong with going for sexy indian girls again?
Im game dude. Im going to try that tonight and report back on what happens.COD said:PAY ATTENTION................I aint a super model.......I am average at best..........but I do get laid like a rock star.
heres what you reveled...........U messaged........
"Probably like 35 women on POF and only like three responded. "
There lies the PROOF that you email messages BLOW CHUNKS AND DO NOT reap your efforts.
so INSTEAD OF ALL THE GENERIC ADVICE.............I want you to DO AN EXPERIMENT FOR ME.............CUT N PASTE THIS...........AND SEND IT TO THE NEXT 35 WOMEN.
SUBJECT LINE: "I GOT SOME BAD NEWS OR YOU.........."
EMAIL MESSAGE: all those guys that emailed you already have a girlfriend......good news is A) you are KINDA CUTE and B) I AM SINGLE!!!!
let me know if U experience any better stats than 3 out of 35.
Thats just a fraction of what U can do to TILT the odds in your favor.......trust me there is a lot more.
PICTURES-yet another skillset to master, and again lots you can do to create attraction with pix. To the douche that spewed its all about pictures......cute pictures get numbers........ITS ACTUALLY THE OPPOSITE.........I got over 400 phone numbers in a 6 month period on POF......very little had to do with my picture.
I CSI'd you IM conversation............have to agree with the other posters U really don't push the evelope enough to evoke a reaction.
Part of being a social artist online or in field is to be willing to say the wrong things and still recover to attain results. The art of virtual negs especially online is a skillset VERY FEW have yet to master.
just remember;
1) PURPOSE OF the INITIAL EMAIL is to introduce yourself and trigger interest to the point where they feel compelled to respond......thats it.
2) SECONDARY EMAILS primary function is to EXTRACT further interaction and to decrease the virtual gap, transition to the phone.
3) THIRD OR FOLLOW UP EMAILS-function is for last minute resistance, make it or break it........or move on.
YOU emailed them for a reason, competition is fierce, if she read your email and responded you just beat out 75% of the competition. Giving up a phone number to a complete ONLINE stranger is a feat in itself......DO NOT UNDER-ESTIMATE THIS ACHIEVEMENT.
IF u aint feeling comfortable with my email assingment.........then do your homework.......start researching comedy, sarcasm, online dating experts, etc.......U need to increase your knowledge of how attraction works, which email template reap the most benefits, how to select specific targets whom will respond, etc, etc.
BUT DO YOURSELF A FAVOR.................COPY, PASTE..........AND MEET THEM.
The other side of the coin that many forget is............what will U do if you get 20-35 girls responding. Spinning plates is work my friend......watch what U wish for.
I WANT TO HEAR REAL SUCCESS POST, NO MORE lame "what did i do wrong" garbage.
We are here to assist........
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
You are a good looking indian dude, but you need to understand (and this isn't ME speaking), but white women, as a majority, instantly disqualify indian guys just because they are indian.harkkam08 said:Well so far I messaged 15 girls. 4 of them have read the message COD suggested I try the other 11 havent read the message yet
But None have responded. Here is my profile, lol I really am starting to think it could be my looks.
http://www.plentyoffish.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=20595658
Here are the profiles of the girls I messaged to give you an idea of who Im going after.
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member20714247.htm
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member15997658.htm
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member19684712.htm
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member20595002.htm
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member20784724.htm
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member20736553.htm
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member19690451.htm
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member15454319.htm
You get the idea..
Here are the girls that actually messaged me and I didnt send them anything.
http://www.plentyoffish.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=20571170
^ holy **** thats nasty
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member20557228.htm
^ not bad but too young for me
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The girl that I was chatting with which this thread is about
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member19345373.htm
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Is it my looks guys that are getting me nothing?
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
She interpreted your question about Bar B Q as a precursor to your asking her out. You caught her off guard - note how she fumbled and stumbled in her replies.harkkam08 said:me(11:07:44 PM)do you know how to grill?
her(11:08:00 PM)ummmmmmm
her(11:08:02 PM)sure?
her(11:08:04 PM)lol
me(11:08:22 PM)lol...not sure....
me(11:08:37 PM)its not hard....and its alot of fun
she didnt respond after that
Really? you're only 23 years old bro wake the **** up. i mean seriously i think that girl is hot, and if she contacted you it means shes interested and doesnt care about your age. Even if she was too young, which shes not, what do you have to lose by talking to her? Are you afraid you'll fall in love with someone younger than you? or do you just want to protect your ego by leaving it as 'she likes you' and you wont talk to her bc she might not like you anymore?