"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Oneitis causing me to second guess myself

SteR

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Hi guys,

To cut a long story short, I had a new co-worker start at my company a few months before christmas. She was showing huge IOIs all the way until our xmas do where she pretty much threw herself at me.

At the time I was thinking rationally and walked away from her thinking a) she's already shown too many red flags and b) I shouldn't get involved with co-workers, especially ones I work so closely with.

The problem is after this happened she clearly stopped her pursuit, but this then had the opposite damn effect on me and caused me to start crushing on her. Obviously I keep reminding myself that it was my decision to walk away from this situation, however now my mind is playing tricks on me and I'm starting to question whether I made the right decision.

My social life is limited at the moment which makes things very difficult. Hopefully things will improve soon but it's hard to tell.

I suppose what I'm looking for is reassurance that I made the right decision. I was talking it over with some friends last night and they said I was a fool for turning her down.. but I'd argue that they're generally pretty clueless when it comes to women and figure a man should take everything he can get.

Any thoughts?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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You made the right decision bro. I went through this once. New co-worker, came all sorts of flirty with me. I don't **** where i eat, so i ignored it all. She eventually withdrew the flirtyness, and I missed it like hell.

But she's not going to keep pinging an empty well. She tried, didn't get a good response and eventually moved on to warmer prospects. I wanted it back, but that just wasn't going to happen now.
 

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You made the right call, trust me.

A married co-worker of mine screwed one of our interns. Do you know how he's viewed in the office now? He'll never be remembered for the work he did, that's for damn sure.

I know your situation is a bit different but if a woman comes on that strong, there is another motive at play (she could be a total sl_t, she could be getting back at a boyfriend, she could be just plain mental).

Keep posting here if you are struggling and we'll talk you through it.
 

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scrouds said:
You made the right decision bro. I went through this once. New co-worker, came all sorts of flirty with me. I don't **** where i eat, so i ignored it all. She eventually withdrew the flirtyness, and I missed it like hell.
Exactly what I'm going through at the moment.. withdrawal symptoms from the attention I suppose.

expos said:
You made the right call, trust me.

A married co-worker of mine screwed one of our interns. Do you know how he's viewed in the office now? He'll never be remembered for the work he did, that's for damn sure.

I know your situation is a bit different but if a woman comes on that strong, there is another motive at play (she could be a total sl_t, she could be getting back at a boyfriend, she could be just plain mental).

Keep posting here if you are struggling and we'll talk you through it.
Thanks. I thought I had too until I started discussing my decision with others. Most of them said to go for it despite all the warning signs I'd seen ie: talking openly of other men she's sleeping with & drinking excessively. The problem is she's very attractive and comes from a very wealthy family.. which are obviously desirable traits, however they're certainly not good enough to negate the red flags. I also value my job and I'm terrified of the impact it could have if everything went sour...

Right when I first met this girl my gut started screaming to avoid her, which was fine, except the last few months have seen a complete reversal. She's clearly given up the pursuit however now my retarded body has flooded my brain with chemicals that are making me lust after her like crazy, causing me to second guess myself. I've managed to hold out this long, and I think I'm past the worst of it but we'll see.

the_untold_history said:
most of the female problems we see are a result of lack of female Options.
I 100% agree with you here - it's definitely because of this. I think I've mentioned in another thread that due to the huge amount of work I have on at the moment, I've limited time to socialise. On the plus side though, a few of the girls at work are trying to set me up with their friends so that should help..

Anyway thanks guys, you've helped clear up my thoughts :)
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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All good advice, especially don't **** where you eat.

Friends can help, but it's risky. You risk friendships (at least could make them a little awkward) if the blind date fails. However, if you use them to get invited to more parties or social gatherings, that works well.

Why don't you do the bootcamp to distract yourself?
Might find you won't want much help if it helps you.

SH
 
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