One of the greatest statements on modern Republican Politics.

[Warrior74]

Share this with everyone. I'm an independent and this is exactly why.

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/q0wzh/an_open_letter_to_the_republican_national/

 

[backbreaker]

Share this with everyone. I'm an independent and this is exactly why.

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/q0wzh/an_open_letter_to_the_republican_national/

pretty much.

i'm in the same boat. for tax reasons I tend to think of myself as conservative but even with that, i just can't jive with their agenda. do these people actually listen to themselves? it's like a bade keyboard jockey on a date giving advice and talking about crap that no one cares about.

the more you get out there and live the further away you are from the republican agenda from my experience. no one who has remotely deal with the drug problem in America first hand can support the war on drugs. no one who has a friend outside of the people he grew up in the same street as him can support banning gay marriage. everyone here has a friend or knows someone who is gay and you an't look that person in the face and tell him he does not deservet o be married or not. lol i want someone to look at my wife and tell her she can't have an abortion if she wants one and ee how long it will take for them to get slapped.

over the last what... 20 plus years, the republicans have been losing more and more of their basi. so to make up for it, they up the anti with the reherotic and the moral issues to straw up the more uneducated voters. the more they talk the more they get riled up, the further they lose the avg voter.

I do not see anyway the Republican party last for more than 10 more years. political parties die out all the time. hell the republican party itself is like, the 4th reincorporation of itself. it would just have been the first time in almost 200 years. since a major party has collapsed.

 

[backseatjuan]

Federal Reserve Corporation has the power to print money and it controls left and right.

False Left-Right paradigm : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpLaD1C7egI

Enough said!

 

[Quiksilver]

This is why only Ron Paul can save the Republican party.


It seems like we can only choose between a marxist president, or a warmonger president.

Why can't we have a President who wants freedom to let people financially fail, and who will give us freedom from constant wars?

Dr. Paul cannot win. Not enough people with money want him to.

Just as a case in point, look at his performance with baby boomers. It's abysmal, most of his support comes from gen X and youngers.

Why?

His social security policy is very clear. Cut spending = less retirement benefits.

All these baby boomers have retirement benefits on the top of their priorities. They WANT the government spending big until they croak.

Dr. Paul is bad news for the largest population segment in the last 100 years.

Unfortunately, the laws of demographics say that the baby boomers -- having the most votes of any segment -- will get what they want.

And they definitely do not want a balanced budget.

 

[Deep Dish]

Dr. Paul cannot win. Not enough people with money want him to.

That’s a big factor but there’s a deeper more instinctive reason why he will (most likely) never be elected.

I watched an excellent interview of Tucker Carlson with Reason magazine, conducted at a Ron Paul rally, and Tucker explained the psychology. Ron’s appeal is his temperamental refusal to lead, refusal to command people how to lead their lives, but you must be ‘that guy’ in order to organize an efficient movement. “Libertarianism cuts against human nature pretty dramatically. Half of it is appealing, the half that says ‘I can do pretty much whatever I want.’ But the other half, that other people can be allowed to pretty much do whatever they want, even if they’re annoying to me and on the wrong course as far as I’m concerned, that’s deeply unappealing to people. People innately intrinsically want to control other people’s behavior. They figure all sorts of justifications why ‘Oh I know best,’ ‘Don’t do that, you’ll get hurt,’ ‘I’ve done that before, that’s a bad idea,’ or ‘If you were only smart enough or as smart as I am, you would see this.’ Whatever justification they offer, they have a natural desire, almost all of them, to control other people, and that’s contrary to the basic tenant of libertarianism. So it’s very easy for people to say ‘Oh I’m a libertarian,’ ‘Oh yeah I think everybody should do what they want,’ meaning me.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-ohP6CX4Vo

 

[backbreaker]

IMHO Alan Greenspan pretty much sealed the deal for any one with serious libertarian values to ever get elected to the high office. his values seriously screwed the pooch in the late 90's and again in the mid 2000's

 

[Mike32ct]

This is why only Ron Paul can save the Republican party.


It seems like we can only choose between a marxist president, or a warmonger president.

Why can't we have a President who wants freedom to let people financially fail, and who will give us freedom from constant wars?

Exactly. Marxists or neo-con warmongers. Pick your poison.

 

[Deep Dish]

Social_Leper:
Interesting. Although you can look at the other side of the coin: That the majority of men have an inherent desire to be led. Freedom, it seems, is too great a burden for man to bear.

I’m not sure how much that applies to political elections. People are drawn towards leaders with higher greater social power than themselves, but people aren’t voting for someone to lead their personal individual lives. It’s established in anthropology that most of our entire human heritage (until the 1500’s or so) comes from living in tribes of no more than 150 clansmen, because anything greater than 150 was too much chaos and because the relations were too distant. We are cooperative towards our in-groups and xenophobic towards out-groups. The only reason why societies have been capable of evolving beyond the biological limit is through societal controls though law and the development of super-tribes (media, celebrity culture, professional team sports). So there is a valid interest in controlling the behaviors of other people, in terms of keeping the glue of society sticking together, and it would seem that is the most primary, most imperative instinct in play at the voter box. But like I say, I'm not sure.

Why do you think religion, in all its forms is so popular?

Three reasons: people are deathly afraid of death, we are pattern-seeking animals and “god did it” fills in explanatory gaps, societal control. Most people believe in the belief of god, so I’m not sure of the ordering of those three reasons.

 

[backbreaker]

Newt is the trigger man for the Republican party.

You can draw an almost, direct line, with Newt's mid 90's power plays to the downward spiral republican party.

Their fatal flaw, at least since the 90's, has been that they always seem to misjudge the american people and are never truly in sync with what the people want.

In the 90's government shut down, Newt actually believed that he would not come out unscathed if he would not work with the president who was trying to send a balanced budget but not at the expensive of medicare and medicaid.. two of the american untouchables in politics it seems. He and the party honestly believed that the public thought it was going to be cool with just slashing pretty much nothign but medicare a medicaid and when clinton brought forth a package to balance the budget without trimming those, and he didn't budge, his goose was cooked and was eventually made to resign the speaker of the house behind it. that was pretty dang stupid in retrospect.

americans don't care about gays for the most part. that's all the republicans care about. americans feel that the middle class is disappearing, and the republicans want more tax breaks from the rich. The republicans are hanging on to the 80's like a 45 year old man with a T top convertible, a mohawk with tight leather pants blasting hotel California.

but what has really killed the republican party is the internet. People can now get together and talk about just how stupid some of their ideas, rhetoric and propaganda really is.

I am convinced the republican party has no, freaking idea what the avg american wants or even needs for that matter. they literally do not have a plan to do anything but cut taxes. That is the Republican entire platform. lol not even YOUR taxes which makes it all the worse. Their entire platform is basically elect us, we want to cut corproate and rich taxes.. just trust us it will work out somehow. That's not gonna work in 2012.

If not for a smoked filled deal to get bush in office and a war that scared the country into not putting anyone else in office, the republicans would have been out of office for a while.

 

[backbreaker]

Newt is the trigger man for the Republican party.

You can draw an almost, direct line, with Newt's mid 90's power plays to the downward spiral republican party.

Their fatal flaw, at least since the 90's, has been that they always seem to misjudge the american people and are never truly in sync with what the people want.

In the 90's government shut down, Newt actually believed that he would not come out unscathed if he would not work with the president who was trying to send a balanced budget but not at the expensive of medicare and medicaid.. two of the american untouchables in politics it seems. He and the party honestly believed that the public thought it was going to be cool with just slashing pretty much nothign but medicare a medicaid and when clinton brought forth a package to balance the budget without trimming those, and he didn't budge, his goose was cooked and was eventually made to resign the speaker of the house behind it. that was pretty dang stupid in retrospect.

americans don't care about gays for the most part. that's all the republicans care about. americans feel that the middle class is disappearing, and the republicans want more tax breaks from the rich. The republicans are hanging on to the 80's like a 45 year old man with a T top convertible, a mohawk with tight leather pants blasting hotel California.

but what has really killed the republican party is the internet. People can now get together and talk about just how stupid some of their ideas, rhetoric and propaganda really is.

I am convinced the republican party has no, freaking idea what the avg american wants or even needs for that matter. they literally do not have a plan to do anything but cut taxes. That is the Republican entire platform. lol, not even YOUR taxes which makes it all the worse. Their entire platform is basically elect us, we want to cut corproate and rich taxes.. just trust us it will work out somehow. That's not gonna work in 2012.

If not for a smoked filled deal to get bush in office and a war that scared the country into not putting anyone else in office, the republicans would have been out of office for a while.

 

[Serg897]

The modern Republican Party is in one of the most sorry states it has been in decades. The right-wing theocratic teabagger fringe has taken over and now this primary has only pathetic candidates most Republicans dont like, virtually guaranteeing Obamas reelection.

Do they seriously think that pushing issues like abortion, contraception, and gay marriage is going to win the hearts and minds of voters? Only the religious fundies, not mainstream America. I for one hope Rick Santorum wins the nomination, then we'll really see a lopsided election.

 

[BigJimbo]

AIPAC is having their convention this week that will decide where America will blow up next. Ron Paul is a man of peace who wants trade and discussions with all people. They don't like that. He is my American hero. More boozing and broads less soldiers and bankers. Soldiers/Bankers BAD - PUA's annoying but better.

This board is about broads. Lets see...

http://www.israellycool.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/hot-hizbullah.jpg
Lebanese Hezbollah girl. Romney views her as a "bloodthirsty terrorist", while Ron Paul wants you to go all PUA on her.

Who would you rather...

American soldiers
http://o.aolcdn.com/photo-hub/news_gallery/6/8/684643/1283883726014.JPEG

Evil Syrian defenders
http://www.thedailybeast.com/conten...nt/body/inlineimage.img.jpg/1329272410967.jpg

As a simple minded fool who only lives for mid-evening Martinis, hot young broads, the feeling of high count sheets, and airline upgrades I must say that America is losing the war on where I would rather be.