"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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One more reason to never date a single/divorced woman with kids

soxfan52

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The EX they will undoubtedly want to or end up going back to or just banging. That is the father, they are the family, you are not. The woman almost always has the fantasy in her head of getting back with him and having the wonderful happy family she always wanted.
He on the other hand is always going to feel it is his right to come back and bang her anytime he wants. He will especially want to when he gets pissed another guy is taking his family.
She will always go back to him if there is a chance she can have the family back. You are just a temp. If the ex all of a sudden has changed and is mt wonderful now guess who is leaving?
There bond is that kid or kids and always will be.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I was thinking about this the other day. I also think that sometimes a woman is so disgusted with her ex and she won't touch him, but still, he will try to come back and "fuvk her emotionally". That is to say, even if she never touches him again, he will make her feel guilty, and give her low self esteem, where she will turn on you instead of him.
 

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All drama aside, dating a women with a kid or kids is a waste of time cause ni nearly every case someone be it you or them will drift away cause of the fact you'll rarely get alone time with them if any time at all. And it will just be a text relationship with most of your "trying to make plans" will evolve around the rare occurrence she will be available without the kid(s) which she will have no idea when. and many times their babysitter may cancel, or only do it for a hour or two.

No point, dating someone with kids would be no better, but even worse than a long distance relationship.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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another thing is i get tired of hearing her talk about her stupid kids all the time. Little Timmy did this, little Mary did that, blah blah blah blah. like i give a damn. i know it sounds mean but i don't give one rats ass about her kids, they aren't mine.
 

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ok I admit guys...Im sorta seeing this girl with a 2 year old child.

She was married of course, had a kid and now is divorced. Ive met the kid, shes really cute. But I understand that there will be no chance for a realtionship.

She is just looking for sex and so am I.

I like her, she cool and we have similar interests which is fine for me. I know that there will be no emotional investment. Just 2 adults enjoying each others time.

So its not so bad, if you just want to BANG it out together. but once you start looking for a long term relationship, everything gets thrown out the window.
 

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PokerStar said:
ok I admit guys...Im sorta seeing this girl with a 2 year old child.

She was married of course, had a kid and now is divorced. Ive met the kid, shes really cute. But I understand that there will be no chance for a realtionship.

She is just looking for sex and so am I.

I like her, she cool and we have similar interests which is fine for me. I know that there will be no emotional investment. Just 2 adults enjoying each others time.

So its not so bad, if you just want to BANG it out together. but once you start looking for a long term relationship, everything gets thrown out the window.

Be very careful of this. A woman with kids rarely is just wanting sex, she wants a family. She is using the sex to attract you and perhaps trap you. Also it's terrible for the kid if you start getting attached and just plan on leaving . In my opinion nothing good can come of this. Stop thinking with your **** and run.
 

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soxfan52 said:
Be very careful of this. A woman with kids rarely is just wanting sex, she wants a family. She is using the sex to attract you and perhaps trap you. Also it's terrible for the kid if you start getting attached and just plan on leaving . In my opinion nothing good can come of this. Stop thinking with your **** and run.
i hear you dude. Ill be watching this very closely.
 

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At what point does this happen? I am the ex that is changing and she seems to find it impossible to see me any differently than she did over the course of the relationship. And all I ever hear about is exes getting back together, yet for whatever reason I cannot improve the situation. And she seems to be oblivious to the fact that our current relationship status is destroying our sweet, almost 5 year old boy..
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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JimmieMurdoc said:
At what point does this happen? I am the ex that is changing and she seems to find it impossible to see me any differently than she did over the course of the relationship. And all I ever hear about is exes getting back together, yet for whatever reason I cannot improve the situation. And she seems to be oblivious to the fact that our current relationship status is destroying our sweet, almost 5 year old boy..

not to bash you or anything but do you not know how to pull out on time or spend $.75 for a condom?
 

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I do know how to pull out on time. I just stopped doing it for a while. And I never used a condom with her, except when I wanted to feel like I wasn't having sex.

Regardless of that, my ex seems to be the only one that doesn't give a **** about doing the family thing, so as far as the topic.. Worry not fellas, there are the anomalies that don't really give a **** about anything
 

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They are probably rare but there are exceptions. Even if I was wasted and my ex wife was naked I wouldn't touch her. Also, you might be able to find the horrible mom who loves that dad takes the kid on the weekend and she can do whatver. lol.. I sound spiteful!
 

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Pretend to be the nice guy, "rent-a-daddy", pay-for-all-the-ish-trick or whatever they're looking for. Then sleep with them and leave afterward. Or sleep with them regularly but keep them at arms' length while going after other women and/or doing whatever else you want.
 

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Most of the posters on this board, especially in the MM forum have been the3re and done that. It never works out. You're #3 in line, at best, and probably much lower (herself, kids, ex- grandparents, work, school, etc.etc., all before you).
Keep her as a plate, if you must, but do yourself a favor and be spinning other plates at the same time. then, make sure you dump her before she dumps you. That's crucial.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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IF she left HIM, she won't want to get back. IF HE left HER, she may want to put the family back together.
 

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I left my ex. for cheating and lying. She tried to come back. I just hit it and quit it. Then when she found a new guy she tried to become a vindictive ****. And told him how I was the bad one and she was poor little miss innocent. She got him in captian save a hoe mode and he thought he could talk **** to me and deny me my child visits until I flashed the heat on him. She almost got that guy killed fvcking around with me. Don't trust these single mothers, they lie. and Lie some more.
 
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