"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Once you get the number, how much rapport is needed before the date?

Deicide

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Hey, I've been taking a break from cold approach pick-up until I feel I'm ready to do that again. For now, I'm just doing social circle and hired gun game. Which brings up my recent predicament. I have no clue how much rapport or comfort you need to develop with a girl until you go for the date.
I've decided I'm not going even close to an LTR route anymore(3 dates until sex, ice cream, all that stuff that made me not get laid doing cold approach pick up).. Just hanging out or going out for drinks is my goal with women. To have sex as soon as possible is my goal.

So, I asked a 40's something store worker to hang out. She pulled the "Let me get your number", and I told her No, let me get yours, and I did. So, I get her number, and text her a few days later. She answers, we talk about playing pool for a text or two, then I bring out the "What days are you not working?" Maybe we should hang out sometime then. I got no answer, and I may not get an answer, which is fine with me. I'm just experimenting the circumstances of social circle and hired gun game until I'm ready to do full blown cold approaches again.

Which means, learning how much rapport is needed. So, in general, how much rapport is needed before you get a hang-out session/drinks type of date? I had only talked to this woman a couple times, so it's actually a lot like cold approach pick-up. I am certainly going the agressive get the date as soon as possible route, but I may be too agressive. I may try some text/call rapport building for the next girl I try to get involved with, just to experiment and see what happens.

And this is all in a small town setting also, if that really takes into account how things work. So, I would have a small pool of maybe 5K women to cold approach or date within a county radius.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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shizz702

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It depends on the situation as different women will react differently on these kinds of things.

My opinion is go with the flow and see what kind of pace she sets. If you get a good vibe for it. Generally though the sooner the better, and if she gets flakey, as this one you just dealt with did, oh well cut your loss.
 
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