"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Once you get the number, how much rapport is needed before the date?

Deicide

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Hey, I've been taking a break from cold approach pick-up until I feel I'm ready to do that again. For now, I'm just doing social circle and hired gun game. Which brings up my recent predicament. I have no clue how much rapport or comfort you need to develop with a girl until you go for the date.
I've decided I'm not going even close to an LTR route anymore(3 dates until sex, ice cream, all that stuff that made me not get laid doing cold approach pick up).. Just hanging out or going out for drinks is my goal with women. To have sex as soon as possible is my goal.

So, I asked a 40's something store worker to hang out. She pulled the "Let me get your number", and I told her No, let me get yours, and I did. So, I get her number, and text her a few days later. She answers, we talk about playing pool for a text or two, then I bring out the "What days are you not working?" Maybe we should hang out sometime then. I got no answer, and I may not get an answer, which is fine with me. I'm just experimenting the circumstances of social circle and hired gun game until I'm ready to do full blown cold approaches again.

Which means, learning how much rapport is needed. So, in general, how much rapport is needed before you get a hang-out session/drinks type of date? I had only talked to this woman a couple times, so it's actually a lot like cold approach pick-up. I am certainly going the agressive get the date as soon as possible route, but I may be too agressive. I may try some text/call rapport building for the next girl I try to get involved with, just to experiment and see what happens.

And this is all in a small town setting also, if that really takes into account how things work. So, I would have a small pool of maybe 5K women to cold approach or date within a county radius.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

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shizz702

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It depends on the situation as different women will react differently on these kinds of things.

My opinion is go with the flow and see what kind of pace she sets. If you get a good vibe for it. Generally though the sooner the better, and if she gets flakey, as this one you just dealt with did, oh well cut your loss.
 
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