"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Once you get the number, how much rapport is needed before the date?

Deicide

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Hey, I've been taking a break from cold approach pick-up until I feel I'm ready to do that again. For now, I'm just doing social circle and hired gun game. Which brings up my recent predicament. I have no clue how much rapport or comfort you need to develop with a girl until you go for the date.
I've decided I'm not going even close to an LTR route anymore(3 dates until sex, ice cream, all that stuff that made me not get laid doing cold approach pick up).. Just hanging out or going out for drinks is my goal with women. To have sex as soon as possible is my goal.

So, I asked a 40's something store worker to hang out. She pulled the "Let me get your number", and I told her No, let me get yours, and I did. So, I get her number, and text her a few days later. She answers, we talk about playing pool for a text or two, then I bring out the "What days are you not working?" Maybe we should hang out sometime then. I got no answer, and I may not get an answer, which is fine with me. I'm just experimenting the circumstances of social circle and hired gun game until I'm ready to do full blown cold approaches again.

Which means, learning how much rapport is needed. So, in general, how much rapport is needed before you get a hang-out session/drinks type of date? I had only talked to this woman a couple times, so it's actually a lot like cold approach pick-up. I am certainly going the agressive get the date as soon as possible route, but I may be too agressive. I may try some text/call rapport building for the next girl I try to get involved with, just to experiment and see what happens.

And this is all in a small town setting also, if that really takes into account how things work. So, I would have a small pool of maybe 5K women to cold approach or date within a county radius.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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shizz702

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It depends on the situation as different women will react differently on these kinds of things.

My opinion is go with the flow and see what kind of pace she sets. If you get a good vibe for it. Generally though the sooner the better, and if she gets flakey, as this one you just dealt with did, oh well cut your loss.
 
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