"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Older women are awesome

Shivastorm_88

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I met this 45 year old cougar (I'm 25) and holy **** her sex drive is off the ****ing roof, it's insane. I had heard about it from a few people, but never thought it would be true until I actually experienced it.

That is all. I had to share this glorious fact.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Good for you, now keep in mind they can also play games faaaar more adroitly than 20-something chicks. Be alert.
 

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Shivastorm_88 said:
I met this 45 year old cougar (I'm 25)
We don't call them "cougars" anymore, we are back to just calling them old ladies.

Shivastorm_88 said:
holy **** her sex drive is off the ****ing roof, it's insane. I had heard about it from a few people, but never thought it would be true until I actually experienced it.
Yeah it's called being 3 feet away from the wall. Edit: scratch that she hit the wall 10 years ago, I read it as 35, that's just called 10 years of regret and too much TV.

Can't congratulate you I'm afraid, a 25 year old with leprosy and chronic wrist cramp from WoW could fvck an old lady.
 

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That's all I like to do, bring older women into chambers! I had a woman who was 65 in there and she did Judge nismo THREE times that night!

I gave her a very stiff punishment. :D

Of course, older women play more games than younger ones since the cougar and milf craze from the media gave them more power.
 

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I'd like to meet an older women myself. Care to explain how/where you two met?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Droz88 said:
I'd like to meet an older women myself. Care to explain how/where you two met?
I met mine online (POF). I just put myself at age 43. Went by her house, she had drinks ready for me, we made out, then she made me take her to chambers because I'm such a hard judge. :D
 

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Shiva, I don't know if you saw my post, but here it is: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1930911#post1930911

20 year difference for me too. It was a lot of fun. Watch out for what Zarky said, though.

My cougar has been texting me NONSTOP lately, to the point I nearly classified her as a stage-5 clinger. Then yesterday she starts up with this "you are no fun anymore" crap and saying that it's like I've been really distant since our night together. And that I rarely respond to texts, and if I do, I respond once or twice and then ignore the rest.

I wasn't in the mood to bull**** around, so I was straight up and said "You text me all day. I think it's rude to text while I'm having a conversation with people. And you text me all day. I'm not gonna drop everything to respond to you constantly."

Luckily she was able to take it better than a younger girl. She said I was right and apologized, but I know it would have gotten out of hand if I didn't call her on it.

But now I have to ask the same question that was asked of me in the thread I just posted. Were you at all disappointed after her clothes came off?
 

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PDubb75 said:
Shiva, I don't know if you saw my post, but here it is: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1930911#post1930911

20 year difference for me too. It was a lot of fun. Watch out for what Zarky said, though.

My cougar has been texting me NONSTOP lately, to the point I nearly classified her as a stage-5 clinger. Then yesterday she starts up with this "you are no fun anymore" crap and saying that it's like I've been really distant since our night together. And that I rarely respond to texts, and if I do, I respond once or twice and then ignore the rest.

I wasn't in the mood to bull**** around, so I was straight up and said "You text me all day. I think it's rude to text while I'm having a conversation with people. And you text me all day. I'm not gonna drop everything to respond to you constantly."

Luckily she was able to take it better than a younger girl. She said I was right and apologized, but I know it would have gotten out of hand if I didn't call her on it.

But now I have to ask the same question that was asked of me in the thread I just posted. Were you at all disappointed after her clothes came off?
Hah good man, I'll be on the lookout, although for me it seems, so far, to have been the opposite; her texts dropped dramatically. Although I am seeing her again, she doesn't send me thousands of texts (yes exaggerating a bit)

I wasn't disappointed, no. I knew she wouldn't have the body of a 25 year old obviously, but she's still well maintained for her age!
 

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I had a 40-year-old when I was 23. She was a runner and some specialty chef. Second best fvck I ever had. Best fvckbuddy I've had too.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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