"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Lots of discussion about younger women. An older guy can get them if he is a DJ and hasn't a beer belly. But how about the older ones?

I've already discussed the Afrikaans speaking women here in SA - who are totally different to the English speaking ones. They act like real ladies and have old fashion values. My latest gf is one and what a refreshing change, willing do do little favours, like sewing hems etc as long as I simply take her out to do fun action dates.

Other English speaking women hearing this are also keen to go out for me as they long for a male companion who is prepared to take them out - even give me their numbers without asking for it.

The point is that these are not fat hags - but attractive quality women who simply want fun. I think our oldest member (Scaramouche) is right when he says it gets better the older you get.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Ballie said:
Other English speaking women hearing this are also keen to go out for me as they long for a male companion who is prepared to take them out - even give me their numbers without asking for it.

The point is that these are not fat hags - but attractive quality women who simply want fun. I think our oldest member (Scaramouche) is right when he says it gets better the older you get.
Perhaps you have an acute man shortage over there.
WE have a "mild " man deficit down here, but the women still act like their sisters in Nth America.
 

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Show us the video. I have to see this to believe it.
 

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There is not a man shortage here. Plenty of them around. Howwever there is a shortage of professional quality guys. I thing the most of them have emigrated to Oz. Ahaha! thats why you guys are battleing ;)

Anyway the trick is to treat them like teenages C&F is the key. Learned a lot from this forum da Pook is da MAN.

Took my Afrikaans meisie out dancing aftterwards......:)
 

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Dear Ballie,
I last visited your beautiful country almost 20 years ago.....Yes the Women from most Racial groupings were nice to look at,but unaproachable,I was told the only acceptable place to meet a Lady was Church,at that time,there seemed very few Pubs or Clubs,very quiet.......The Boer women although generally inclined to become big heifers included many strikingly fit even glamorous blonde blue eyed Brunhildes....The impression was of a Victorian attitude to sexuality,easy to imagine pulling one of these Ladies,but the Idea of nudging them in the ribs for a spot of slap and tickle,needed a lot of imagination,as for a head job,well hmm.....The Anglo Women seemed pretty much the same as her Sisters in the US,England,Aust NZ etc...Now those Zulu Women,Oh yes they were gorgeous with their Magnificent Athletic Bodies,sly eyes,dancing feet and child bearing hips...Oh well,I suppose a Man may dream!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Ballie said:
Lots of discussion about younger women. An older guy can get them if he is a DJ and hasn't a beer belly. But how about the older ones?
Just remember to always use a condom when you bang an older woman. You don't want to catch osteoporosis.
 

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Just remember to always use a condom when you bang an older woman. You don't want to catch osteoporosis.
If I believed in witty signature lines that would go in mine.
 

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I like it when I can hear their knees creaking during sex.
 

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I'm not saying that I don't prefer having s_x with a younger girl far from it. One of the best ones I had was with a natural redhead (just like me) in her 20's - must of been a mutual attraction...Dumb as sh!t though, but a fb for a while.

An older woman has benefits though, can at least talk to them and there are well preserved ones out there who simply want to have fun.
 
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jophil28 said:
Just remember to always use a condom when you bang an older woman. You don't want to catch osteoporosis.
Thanks JoPhil, my motherfvcking blackeye from Starbucks is all over my goddamned desk!

This is awesome.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Thanks JoPhil, my motherfvcking blackeye from Starbucks is all over my goddamned desk!

This is awesome.
Yah, well I am sorry about your coffee, KS. My post about osteoporosis as an STD was written as a timely memo to you guys who like having your way with the older gals.
IN fact I do some of that occasionally too - it's is sort of like charity work in a way.
And I have a few more tips for you guys who also might like to contribute to the emotional and physical wellbeing of our senior ladies...
Keep a rescusitator by the bed and lay in a supply of hearing-aid batteries.

After your "date" with granny cougar, just drop her off at the bingo hall instead of driving all across town.

Now isn't that a whole lot less drama than screwing those kittens ?
 

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Ballie said:
Howwever there is a shortage of professional quality guys. I thing the most of them have emigrated to Oz. Ahaha! thats why you guys are battleing ;)
Are you saying they won't have sex with you or keep you as a f*ck buddy, unless you're a "professional" wealthy guy with a lot of money? I'm not sure, as I've always been somewhat confused when it comes to this.
 

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My post about osteoporosis as an STD was written as a timely memo to you guys... And I have a few more tips for you guys
When it comes to banging older women, leave it to Jophil to add another wrinkle.
 

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Are you saying they won't have sex with you or keep you as a f*ck buddy, unless you're a "professional" wealthy guy with a lot of money? I'm not sure, as I've always been somewhat confused when it comes to this.
Lets face facts. I am afraid that if you have not established yourself as an self sufficient man with a good job, car etc at the age of 50 - doesn't mean that you have to have lots of money, you don't have much chance with attracting women.

I am not wealthy, because getting divorced you lose half of you hard earned cash and I am putting my kids through college.
 
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