"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Older guy dating a HS girl...tips?

solo1

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I've been dating this hs senior and I'm a few years older.
The problem with her is often she's very quiet when with me or over the phone (which is why i only call to set up dates). Usually she doesnt call me so if anything i have to call and she'll usually return the call.

Although my sister is a few years younger, when they met they (or her) had a lot to talk about...Im assuming it was about school and stuff, i dont know i wasnt around.

I know for a fact she only have a few or couple of friends and usually doesnt get out much. and it seems that she doesnt mind where I take her as long as she's with me. But she's holding back and remains a mystery and doesnt tell me much or anything happening in her life(even if i ask)...Im guess she's thinking Ill think less of her if i learn more about her/ that she'll scare me off.
And the strange thing is she barely knows much about me as she doesnt ask.

I remember talking/conversing with hs girls while i was in hs was pretty easy, barely had to make an effort..we'd call each other etc. But this girl is a tough nut to crack and dont understand her...what do you guys think? are HS girls usually this passive/uninspired?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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She's a Shy Girl. Not about girl to girl, but between YOU and her, she's shy as shy can be. She doesn't want to get hurt, so she's holding back. :) On that note, she's probably head over heels for you.
 

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Docs said:
She's a Shy Girl. Not about girl to girl, but between YOU and her, she's shy as shy can be. She doesn't want to get hurt, so she's holding back. :) On that note, she's probably head over heels for you.

Interesting thought I just broke up with a girl like this even though a friend of mine pretty much said the same thing you said. It can get to be too annoying and a pain in the azz dealing with this
 

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I dated a shy girl (actually..we're on and off, long distance now, it's on ATM). She won't say that she likes me, I have to force it out of her.

Kinda blows, but meh.
 

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Thanks for the feedback

Mpimpin...yea it can be a pain in the azz, a guy only has so much patience..humans are meant to be social creatures. Most of the time you never know what these shy girls are thinking. But at least there are some qualities you could find in these types you wont find in others.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Docs said:
She's a Shy Girl. Not about girl to girl, but between YOU and her, she's shy as shy can be. She doesn't want to get hurt, so she's holding back. :) On that note, she's probably head over heels for you.
Thats solid right there. Yeah Docs pretty much hit it on the head. I was in a very similar situation and yeah it can get frustrating. Any other way to get it out of her or dealing with this? How about if shes way shy or really quiet when shes around you. LOL
 

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Take her hand and lead. She'll follow.

Very true but remember not to rush things. The only way a relationship like this is gonna work out is if your willing to put in most of the effort but hopefully eventually she'll come around.

The relationship I just attempted this with was a bloody crawl out of the friendzone to find myself in this situation. I accomplished all goals but way to much time and energy wasted. :crazy:

Keep in mind the Easy way is not always the wrong choice.
 

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Alright, *Cracks fingers* If she is the really shy girl, and afraid of losing you, and or you losing interest and what not if she tells you more about herself. How you can break this nut open can be complicated. But you just need to smack a few words around and open her up.

Some things I have used to open her up a little bit, but be sincere.
"(insert name here), I really care about you, and I won't leave you, but I would like you to talk to me more, you shouldn't be scared I am not here to judge you, but I am here to listen." Use something like that, Mod it up a little bit What ever it takes to get her talking. If you think it will work... Do it.

Anyways I have to run out for a bit.

Peace

Smoke
 

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it's funny most of the conventional wisdom in the DJ bible doesnt apply with these types of girls.

Seems that being a mystery often works against you and with these girls you should give them some type of security that you care in some form or another. If you ask me they seem more the immediate LTR-minded types.
Well ill try to set something up this weekend and see what happens.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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