"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Mr. Mystery II

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The evolution of the best time to call

Originally posted by Giovanni Casanova
I've been with some damn manipulative girls, excellent liars, but they have never been that great at covering the late night call from the guys they are cheating with.

In any event, I tend to trust unless I have a reason not to. Has that gotten me burned a few times? Sure, but it's better than the alternative.
I'm not so fast to trust as I am to just not give a shyt. They have the same effect, but ambivalence is safer.

But I agree, better to trust than to live in self doubt and be suspicious of every girl you encounter.

Mr. Mystery
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Giovanni Casanova

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The evolution of the best time to call

Originally posted by Mr. Mystery II
I'm not so fast to trust as I am to just not give a shyt. They have the same effect, but ambivalence is safer.
If it's just a casual thing, then it's pretty easy to not give a sh*t at all. But if it's any kind of a committed relationship, you've got to have some level of trust. And that's something that gets built up over time. I find that when a girl says something and then it gets confirmed somehow that she is telling the truth, that builds the trust up, and vice versa.

It's not that you can just automatically trust someone 100% when you first get into a relationship with them, but over time you begin to get a feel for their character and whether they are trustworthy or not.

You can also look at whether or not she lies to other people, and if she does, how good she is at it. That's one of the many reasons I think it's a bad idea to get involved with a girl with a boyfriend... if she pulls off lying to him and cheating on him and she's so good at the lying that he doesn't even realize she's doing it... then she'll probably be that good of a liar with you, too.

Anyway, though, there are some things inside a girl's control and some things that aren't. If you're lying there with a girl and she picks up the phone at midnight and calls a guy she went out with several months ago -- that's a big problem, no matter what the hell she talks to him about. But she can't help it if the dude calls her -- that's not in her control. Now, if it happens all the time, you've gotta start wondering what the deal is, but Lord knows that I'm fully aware of how guys can be. Just look around this site. I bet there are guys who have/would call a girl up at midnight even if they hadn't called for months, completely oblivious to the probability that their call will not be welcome even if it's 7pm and certainly not at midnight.

But I trust penkitten... I think she's shown herself to have a lot of trustworthiness and integrity.
 

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awww that was very sweet of you to say...

like we really wanted to be bothered by the phone anyhow , huh?
 

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ever heard of drunk-calling?
 

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Originally posted by Centaurion
ever heard of drunk-calling?
perhaps he was, and then he thinks im a loser that sits at home all the time waiting for the phone to ring.
hahaha
what a moron!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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