“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Matched with the lady, same age as me, but appears to keep in shape. One the third message I asked for her number, she replied with the number. I texted her the next day. We messaged about the day and then I asked when she'd be open to getting a drink. She said she has a day off this week, but she doesn't know when and she'll let me know tomorrow. Tomorrow is here, no follow up. Do I reach out again? Wait a week?
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Chicks are weird sometimes. They think its better to not say anything until they know for sure instead of just coming out and being like I dont know right now but I'll keep you posted or something like that.

As a guy we prefer to know whats going on one way or another but women dont seem to think this way often times.

I'd just put her on the back burner and work on other chicks...hit her up in a week or two and try again. If she hits you up before hand then thats cool.

Also some women just are there to play games. Ive had women ask me when i was free to meet up, I give them a day or two I'm free and then I never here from them again. Ghost. I have no earthly what women get out of these interactions but it happens. Never chase, that's what they want...the desperate wall of texts so they can show their friends...just delete their number and keep it moving.
 

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So, after I wrote this thread she then pinged me saying she has a day off on Thursday or can meet Saturday. Those are my two options.

A different lady also has been pinging me since Saturday. I'm trying to keep the messages short and a few hours a part until we meet sometime next week. This is the one who's going away for a week, but she's sick now and in her bed or something. Anyway, I went to escalate via text and I said what do you look for in a man. Physically, his eyes, smile and has to have a nice ass. I then followed up, so what turns you on emotionally, mentally and sexually, so far, no response. Did I scare her off? She's early 30's, it's not like I asked her if she likes anal sex.
 
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Chicks are weird sometimes. They think its better to not say anything until they know for sure instead of just coming out and being like I dont know right now but I'll keep you posted or something like that.

As a guy we prefer to know whats going on one way or another but women dont seem to think this way often times.

I'd just put her on the back burner and work on other chicks...hit her up in a week or two and try again. If she hits you up before hand then thats cool.

Also some women just are there to play games. Ive had women ask me when i was free to meet up, I give them a day or two I'm free and then I never here from them again. Ghost. I have no earthly what women get out of these interactions but it happens. Never chase, that's what they want...the desperate wall of texts so they can show their friends...just delete their number and keep it moving.
I never chase. Out of the 12 ladies that were interested, two flaked a few days before the date and then ghosted, which is fine. They were 40, but had amazing bodies. They've also taken their profile off the dating site, so I assume someone else is doing them right now. Which, again is fine. I just want to know ahead of time so I can re-arrange my schedule. I've met 3 so far. Only one looked like she does online. I just cannot be attracted to boney ladies or fat ladies. I can usually deal with a little chub, as they usually have a nice butt and nice boobs, but it really depends. I never chase; so far, I do not think any of them are worth it. I just replied, let me know when you are free again, and we can reschedule. I doubt I'd hear from them though. This straight edge lady might be, as perhaps, she's not that damaged, but who knows. This is the sick one who's going away with friends. I'd be amazed if we see each other.
 

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I'm trying to keep the messages short and a few hours a part until we meet sometime next week.
Don't bother with "games", just text her and set up a date and then end communication.


I then followed up, so what turns you on emotionally, mentally and sexually
Don't ask women this, it's your job to figure it out and just do. Action over words.
 

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Didn't respond as I am getting ready for sleep. She said she can prob. meet on Thursday after 6, but is certainly free Saturday. I'm thinking about shooting for Thursday since it's a first meet and keep Saturday open. Or should I go for the sure thing Saturday? What's the best way to attack this?
 

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marmel75 and devilkingx2 suggest some texting banter to keep things interesting during the week. No?
I realized that not talking to a girl until the date is a terrible idea when I thought about how it's a very bad sign if you have upcoming plans with a girl and she's radio silent, so if you just go ghost after the date plans are made then you may make her think you're not really coming (and if you're not talking to her, you won't notice if she's being suspiciously radio silent so you can start planning for what you'll be doing on that day instead if she stands you up)

I'd say that since dates cost money and time, you shouldn't be afraid to start talking to her beforehand and get to know her. if your game is so bad you'll say something that makes her block you on the spot then the exact same thing would happen on a date, ditto with her turning out to be really boring or having a sh!t sense of humor or a total prude or a huge b!tch or anything like that.

so either ask her out then talk to her normally til the date comes up, or talk to her for a day or two then ask her out after if that goes well
 

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@marmel75 and @devilkingx2 suggest some texting banter to keep things interesting during the week. No?
That's fine, it's not games then. You do what is congruent to you. I personally do a quick chat, banter, set up a date, then radio silence until date. I prefer face to face interaction. You should ideally have been interesting from the get go and shouldn't need to be interesting in between dates. That said it's personal preference. Just don't do texting games where you wait or try to be something you're not.
 

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That's fine, it's not games then. You do what is congruent to you. I personally do a quick chat, banter, set up a date, then radio silence until date. I prefer face to face interaction. You should ideally have been interesting from the get go and shouldn't need to be interesting in between dates. That said it's personal preference. Just don't do texting games where you wait or try to be something you're not.
I never act to be what I am not. It's just too long to go silent and then meet. That's what happened two weeks ago with another two. They traveling or something, but we made plans for that weekend. Two or three days prior, they asked for a raincheck and then ghosted. Normally, I get their number, banter for two or three messages, then set the date and meet 3 or 4 days later. Meeting 7 - 10 days later with radio silence has not been working for me.
 

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Also, dudes, which is better, Thursday or Saturday for this one? I'm unsure if it matters or not. What does the board think?
 

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I realized that not talking to a girl until the date is a terrible idea when I thought about how it's a very bad sign if you have upcoming plans with a girl and she's radio silent, so if you just go ghost after the date plans are made then you may make her think you're not really coming (and if you're not talking to her, you won't notice if she's being suspiciously radio silent so you can start planning for what you'll be doing on that day instead if she stands you up)

I'd say that since dates cost money and time, you shouldn't be afraid to start talking to her beforehand and get to know her. if your game is so bad you'll say something that makes her block you on the spot then the exact same thing would happen on a date, ditto with her turning out to be really boring or having a sh!t sense of humor or a total prude or a huge b!tch or anything like that.

so either ask her out then talk to her normally til the date comes up, or talk to her for a day or two then ask her out after if that goes well
That's been my normal plan, but the last two who we had to take a rain check screwed up my plain. So, I was thinking if I go radio silence for 10 days since getting her number, this one would cancel on me too. That is why I am throwing a little banter her way. Since she got a little sexual saying she likes a man's ass, I through it back to her on turn-ons. I thought that would had been a good move.
 

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Also, dudes, which is better, Thursday or Saturday for this one? I'm unsure if it matters or not. What does the board think?
Doesn't matter.
 

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That's fine, it's not games then. You do what is congruent to you. I personally do a quick chat, banter, set up a date, then radio silence until date. I prefer face to face interaction. You should ideally have been interesting from the get go and shouldn't need to be interesting in between dates. That said it's personal preference. Just don't do texting games where you wait or try to be something you're not.
Going ghost to the date never worked well for me. Much, much lower flake rate when staying in contact up until the date, even if its only a text or two a day.
 

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Also, dudes, which is better, Thursday or Saturday for this one? I'm unsure if it matters or not. What does the board think?
In this case it doesn't really matter but if you can meet her on Thu and things look promising you can ask her to do something on the weekend again.
 

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Going ghost to the date never worked well for me. Much, much lower flake rate when staying in contact up until the date, even if its only a text or two a day.
Same here. I never become an instant texting pen pal with a chick, but I do build a little rapport. Give them enough to become more interested before the date. Stay mysterious by responding back sporadically and dont become a texting pal to her.

It's a balancing act. If she has high interest it will be easy because she will be initiating the communication before the date. All you have to do is respond back here and there and keep her initiating. Be busy but not to the point of being totally unavailable.

I've never had as much luck from going completely silent between asking them to hang out and the date. Give them crumbs and watch them nibble and want more.
 

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Another quick tip that works for me: I dont ask for their number.

Whether it be chicks I hit up on fb (mainly) or Bumble (occssionally) I just keep it going on there. If their interest is high enough to show up for drinks they WILL give me their number.

But I don't ask for it.

I did see a very good pickup line today that is done over text/messaging:
Guy: what is your favorite number?
Chick: 7. What is yours
Guy: my favorite number is yours, so you fill in the blank (___) ___-_____.

I have better luck not asking for her number when I first hit up a new chick. I will slow play her because I have plenty of options. I know that I'm getting laid twice a week regardless of what she decides to do with me hitting her up. So I come across as not thirsty, not in a rush, and with a busy life.

She will give it to me if she is going to be good to grab drinks and show up. It also blows their mind because I just separated myself from the other 20 thirty dudes trying to hit her up.
 

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Keep your weekend to yourself or plates. Weekday dates keep it short and give you an easy out if she's not what you expected.

Dont ever bring up anything about relationships or anything that could prompt the question. They will take this as a hint that you want it before you even met them. Not good.

Also, take more charge about setting up dates. If shes unavailable and interested, she will counter. This is an easy early tell. Anything other than a yes is a no. You cNt let her dictate the terms of a relationship. Just give a hard date, time and location. Be assertive!!!
 

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Its a numbers game. A few text messages back and forth, set up the date within five days and dont contact her until the day of the date to confirm. I spent a shyt load of text messaging (bantering) in order to get a date with a chicks who obvisously didnt have high interest. Some of them ghosted me after the second date. Numbers gameand low contact!
 
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