“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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okcupid: 13 profile visits - no message

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Hello,

I have created an ocupid profile 4 days ago but I'm wondering if my profile is any good. so far, my "stats" are as follows:
  • 12 profile visits

  • 13 likes

  • 1 date next week

I get roughly 3 likes a day, I don't now if I should expect more as a normal looking guy. I'm mixed (middle eastern/black), so I know that as a non white I shouldn't expect my inbox to overflow either.

I have only messaged the girls that liked me (at least the ones okcupid would let me know about without an A-list subscirption) most of them replied and I have a date with one of them next week.

What bothers me the most is that none of the 12 girls who visited my profile message me afterwards. Should I think there something wrong with my profile or is it standard "window shopping" behaviour ? I mean I could message them, but if they "bounced" from my profile doesn't it mean that they are not interested and I should focus on other girls ? I'm all about using my time effectively so so far I didn't bother messaging them but I might be wrong.

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Logically, you would think that if a women likes your profile on a dating site she is sending you some kind of approach invitation. Not necessarily.

Just because she visited your profile, it does not mean that she has to message you or even respond to you if you message her. Just because your looking, it doesn't mean you have to buy what your looking at.
 

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Your stats are actually decent. Men have an entirely different experience than women do with OLD.

A half decent looking woman will get dozens of messages, assorted d*ck pics, proposals for marriage, 'likes' and what have you in an average week.

I haven't been an OL guy for a while now. It can be enlightening thing to talk to women you meet on line to ask them what their experience has been.
 

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MidnightCity said:
maybe posting what youre profile says will help and the type of pics u have up
I tried to describe myself in a humorous way (not too much) and I also mentioned the fact that I’m french (I live in the US). My pictures are pretty standard, I don’t have any selfie, just one outdoors picture, another in a trip in NY and another one at a restaurant. I was considering adding a shirtless picture (at the beach holding my surfboard) to show that I’m fit but I don’t know if that would be a good idea.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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never used Okcupid but its i think online dating totally emsculated men in generell, you have to stand out with a funny profile, funny pics with tiger mask on your head or idk. otherwise it aint gonna work even if you're good looking.

the fact is there are too many guys, and women just can be more selective, so just find a way to stand out.
 

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Jetleg said:
never used Okcupid but its i think online dating totally emsculated men in generell, you have to stand out with a funny profile, funny pics with tiger mask on your head or idk. otherwise it aint gonna work even if you're good looking.

the fact is there are too many guys, and women just can be more selective, so just find a way to stand out.
After 13 days of experimentation with Okcupid I must say that I agree. It feels like a total waste of time, this game is way rigged in the favor of women. I didn't spam women with boring "hey" messages, I always tried to find something to say that was interesting and based on their profile but I didn't get much responses. Most of the women who responded my messages went silent at my second message (and I wasn't wierd or anything, just replying based on their answers). with no feedback how are you supposed to get any better at this ? I'd rather talk to women in real life. From my own experience OLD is too much work if you you're not extremely good looking and let's face it white. But I might be wrong.
 

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Tictac said:
Your stats are actually decent. Men have an entirely different experience than women do with OLD.

A half decent looking woman will get dozens of messages, assorted d*ck pics, proposals for marriage, 'likes' and what have you in an average week.

I haven't been an OL guy for a while now. It can be enlightening thing to talk to women you meet on line to ask them what their experience has been.
Lol at marriage proposals.
 

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here_we_go said:
After 13 days of experimentation with Okcupid I must say that I agree. It feels like a total waste of time, this game is way rigged in the favor of women. I didn't spam women with boring "hey" messages, I always tried to find something to say that was interesting and based on their profile but I didn't get much responses. Most of the women who responded my messages went silent at my second message (and I wasn't wierd or anything, just replying based on their answers). with no feedback how are you supposed to get any better at this ? I'd rather talk to women in real life. From my own experience OLD is too much work if you you're not extremely good looking and let's face it white. But I might be wrong.

Unfortunately and fortunately (if you are able to LEARN from this experience) you are correct.

As cliche and overused as this may sound it's true white and good looking/ ripped with a gym physique. Profiles and first messages mean little. The better you look. The better your profile and whatever you put / first message you send "sounds".

The majority of women from all races who use OLD are responding to, giving their numbers out, sending private hidden special pics to, meeting, having ONS with one after the other not matter what their profiles may claim they don't want (chick reverse psychology) is:

White

Ripped, gym build, toned physique

For the most part tall as well 6ft. Many mention 6ft as most dudes lie about height anyway just like chicks lie about everything but they expect "truth" while they lie, photoshop, use tons of makeup, push up bras, use angles lie about their weight etc.

Aesthetic good looks.

Money. Showing off your nice car, on a private boat, at your house or nice apartment (homeowner is better as they want to eventually move themselves in to feed off their host.)

It's been beaten to death but it's true. No matter how they may look they're all going for the best. All chasing the top looking, tall, most photogenic, good looking white males who appear to have good jobs and money. Everyone else might as well email themselves.

Now I expect people to go for the best. Yet a VAST VAST majority of these women offer NOTHING but parasiting, having been ran through by countless "dates" they've had, dinner wh0ring, sitting on their azz gaining weight, working low paid jobs or none at all, using OLD as hell pics themselves, having serious issues that don't come out up front (some do), ex's, kids, others in the picture, getting hit constantly from new c0ck, yet even IF attractive themselves CAN'T find ONE person to take them in real life? Can't find anyone to take them online either? Sit on those sites for months and YEARS? HUGE RED FLAG.

Believe little what they say. Take everything and anything with a grain of salt with no anger or bitterness. They aren't worth it.

What you learn from it is to work out, get in the best shape you can, groom and dress your best, do your best in school or at work, be socially open and free and meet people in real life. You'll wind up meeting much better normal people and more attractive that you can screen and pick up queues than the types that frequent OLD.

I've done my own experiment even though on my regular profile I get a lot of views, meet me's, responses, numbers etc. I know when the next best thing is an email away they'll either disappear or flake etc. Most I've talked to have issues. Serious ones. A lot are ONLY entertaining themselves til lthe God looking male comes along to "save" them from themselves.

Who's winning? The guy who looks like a God and pumps and dumps OLD chicks? Or the dude who doesn't bother with them and keeps his sanity. The dudes who look their best aren't taking those women seriously. They know they're only good as cvm dumpsters. You can just look at pictures of those chicks and see even the good looking ones are skanks.

the experiment I did with a dude I know who's a RIPPED bodybuilder with normal pics so as not to come off as fake with modeled pics, using a blaand personal trainer profile was OFF the charts.

Numbers given, meets asked for, meet me's over 98 in three days, views off the charts, 4-5 messages, and or responses within several MINUTES, chicks pushing for conversation, questioning, going sexual without my profile mentioning anything, handing out their numbers, wanting to meet, sending hidden private pics in underwear, b00b shots etc. on POF was ridiculous.

Dudes would have gotten the stark reality if they saw it.

Improve yourselves to the best of your ability. And trust me. You don't want ANY chick who's used OLD especially free sites. They expect what they themselves cannot deliver. Only bring drama, baggage, issues, kids, etc. and what the top shelf while virtually online shopping for FREE.

True story.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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here_we_go said:
I couldn't agree more !
I'm not joking. It's one thing to "guess" and "theorize" but a whole different thing to actually run an experiment (REALISTIC LOOKING PICS) and find no matter what women claim on profiles and how basic the profile they respond to is it's ALL about how attractive they find you in the pictures.

I'll repeat.

The top checks to "succeed" in OLD (and I use the word "succeed" loosely) is

White (most likely as they see white as the most desired due to income potential and "top" male. Yet just being WHITE isn't good enough. Don't kid yourself.) See the rest to be seen as a top first round OLD draft pick.

Ripped, toned, gym physique that matches the other dudes in your area. (An easy search for white athletic males in your area will give you a hint how good you'll do as far as responses, getting likes, meets, ONS etc. (Pic in gym working out)

Age range. YOUR age. Best age range I would say is 27-37 for males then it starts declining. Depending on how ripped you are, what you look like you OWN in your photos, race, height.

Your height. Most women expect men to lie about their height so they mostly all want 6ft or higher. UNLESS you are very photogenic, aesthetic good looks, and are cut up and dress well. (As in name brand) **IF you do lie about your height DO NOT have pictures up standing next to people taller than you or they will think LIAR (even though they lie themselves) and say "short guy liar!" and dismiss you. If you aren't the tallest dude post pictures where you are either the tallest in the group or alone.***

Your income or what you appear to possibly own. Nice car, home, boat. Pictures of your vette, porsche, etc. being on a private boat (friends is good to use or if you have a good picture of you on somebody's).


If you AREN'T white. Look and dress your absolute BEST. Your PICTURES MUST be your absolute MOST flattering of you looking your best.

Pic at the gym showing off your physique. If you aren't ripped you are going to get passed by a lot of women on OLD.

Pic if you don't own a car and know a friend with a nice high end car standing next to it.

A pic at a friends nice home if you don't own a home or have a crap apt.

A pic on a friends private boat.

A pic doing something athletic.

A pic in a suit. "at work" or wedding etc. The best one you have.

LIE about your height by two inches. They already expect a guy to be shorter. I've talked to MANY online of guys showing up shorter, heavier, older even come using their SONS pictures. I sh1t you not.

State in your profile you have a GOOD job that you LOVE and do VERY WELL for yourself. (Your PICS must match your talk. So use your best suit pic)

Those will boost you up. Physique, height (2 inches), using your absolute BEST pictures CLEAR and CLOSE not 4 blocks away, and the appearance of you making and having $$$ as well as being out and doing activities and social things. NOT sitting in your room alone.

Don't come across like a lovesick phaggot in your profile. Very brief and post YOUR requirements (in a non negative way, you like FIT, TONED women who are intelligent, attraction is a must, look good in jeans and dressed up etc. Not "qualify" yourself to them in your profile) Only mention you have a great job you love that you do very well in and live a nice comfortable life. If you own a home. MENTION that you are a home owner. You'll at least attract the gold diggers off your pics of things and your VALUE. Meet them and try to hit and quit. (They WILL question you on your job and things though. I've had many do that besides the compliments they mix in. They'll compliment you if you look good but they are still LOOKING to see if they hit the jackpot. Fact.)

Even after all that, you will still wind up meeting women once that is all accomplished who are heavier themselves in real life, don't look like their pics at all, are nuts, are OLD SLVTS, have kids, have baggage, will look for the next best thing or cause you problems while either looking for YOU as a host to parasite off of for dinners, plays, to be "romanced" etc. while ffering little more in return than online vag that is "sampling" the rest of the first round draft picks IF they themselves can pull it off by offering the pvss to dudes who hit and quit it.

A LOT of those SAME white chicks etc. you are desperate for are sending n00ds out to various men (I in the past had literally three email pages of the same people on profiles, spread, t1t shots, bent over, on sink, on bed, in lingere, in sexy outfits, showing it all etc. Yet not once did I get giddy over it. I know damn well those same pics have been sent to ??? many others and they're STILL online.)

You are pedestalizing the WRONG types. Sure you'll talk to them and they'll be cool etc. and think Oh this ones "different" yet that SAME chick is sending pics, talking dirty, meeting having ONS with other dudes in the top category. May not be every week but they are.

I've also seen tons of pics from other dudes in different states getting them (gym dudes) and NO NOT FROM ONLINE and all the stories about how they are all filthy nasties. Crappy living conditions, druggies, alchoholics you freakin name it.

OLD is nothing more than a virtual dive bar with women who expect everything and offer Pandoras "box" in return.

You've been warned.
 

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here_we_go said:
I(at the beach holding my surfboard) to show that I’m fit but I don’t know if that would be a good idea.
A must. As well as a pic with you and a hot girl for social proof. Ask any hot female friend to hug you and take a selfie and add it to your profile

Showing you are in shape is a must. Doesn't have to be shirtless, a tight workour shirt will do.
 

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guru1000 said:
I laid over 35 hot women between 24-34 yos this year from pof/okc. I schedule between 2-5 dates a week, lots of double-bookings. But, I'm picky, so I don't lay them all. My profile states absolutely nothing other than:

37 yos, self-employed, 6'1, jacked. Oh ya, I forgot my pic(s) also:

http://s1032.photobucket.com/user/Guru1000/media/IMG_6795_zpsx5ivqy86.jpg.html

(Guru shows his face) :eek:
I believe it. If you hit all the top round draft pick qualifications for OLD it's a GOLD MINE of easy pvssy. I swear when I tried my experiment for the hell of it it's like these women turned FEMALE AFC. Like chicks going berserk over a calendar model Chippendale in their living rooms. Like nerds going crazy over a swimsuit contestant at a bikini convention. Off the charts!

I've seen and heard waaaay too much myself and from different dudes I know and talk to in real life.. Another gym dude I know lives in Tampa banged about 17 of them now so far in about 5 months. Seen tons of nudes he'd sent. Some of them look pretty damn good I ain't gonna lie. Others in NY same chit.

The VAST majority of OLD chicks are going for a specific race (majority white), ripped/ cut up, tall, and look like they have $$$, then if it doesn't work out on to the next of the same or only reply to the same type of men as they believe that's what they're worth even IF they continue getting pump and dumped by those same men while they claim to want a "serious relationship"! The women "do" want a serious relationship but what dope is going to take an online slore seriously for a relationship other than a ONS? :crackup:

All the rest might as well hit the gym, groom and dress their best and meet people in real life.

Though top round OLD draft picks aren't winning with OLD chicks either as they get passed around by the rest of the team and live on those sites.

I find the whole thing hilarious entertainment.


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As well as a pic with you and a hot girl for social proof. Ask any hot female friend to hug you and take a selfie and add it to your profile.

Hilarious thing is three of my pics with different chicks (I have waaay too many with hot chicks in real life) that I used the chicks blow away 99.9% of them online! I've had many email me angry over the chicks I'm in the pics with close! They can't HELP but mention it as it makes them insecure as fawk! LMAO :crackup:
 

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Stugots said:
Hilarious thing is three of my pics with different chicks (I have waaay too many with hot chicks in real life) that I used the chicks blow away practically 99% of them online! I've had many email me angry over the chicks I'm in the pics with close! They can't HELP but mention it as it makes them insecure as fawk! LMAO :crackup:
It's a must. When they see you with chicks hotter than them it raises your value.
What's up with this guy that he hangs with her? Must be a good catch

OLD is just like real life. Top 10%(looks wise) are getting 90% of the action. You need above average looks for OLD and the social proof. So op if you got a nice body feel no shame in showing it online.
 
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what would be the point in all of that, hmm? the gal IS going to find OUT that you aint got this and that.
 
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