"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Okay, i'm not realy good at this, but here's my story so far (I need drastic change)

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Basically I'm in the same exact situation as crazy asian, in the fact that im in 11th grade, and I used to be really popular and well liked in junior high, but ever since I came to high school I haven't been happy hanging out with the people I currently am. I used to be the funniest kid in the school in junior high but now I feel like I dont have the self esteem to even crack a joke because people might think 'he's just trying to be funny to fit in'. I'm sick of it and I want to change. Basically I fell in with the wrong crowd right off the bat as a freshman and I was constantly made fun of the entire year, which probably deep down subconsciously made me feel insecure, even though the teasing stopped.

Now, this year, I'm hanging out with a different group of kids, but I feel like I'm too clingy to them as they seem to get annoyed sometimes when I get into conversations (I could be getting mixed messages, I don't know) and I'm not the best conversationalist when I'm feeling awkward or unwanted.

Also in addition I make stupid spur of the moment decisions. An example is earlier today I stopped by and talked to my friend for a second in the parking lot, and then one of my other friends passed by and said 'hey, check out my car' and my friend replied 'alright' and I felt like that was my cue to leave and so I did, but really looking back on it I probably should've come with him, and maybe that's what's really still distancing me from some of my friends - the fact that I don't hang out with them other than at school.

Really, I'm just looking to change man, I'm tired of this bullsh!t and I want out. Thats basically my life story the past two years at high school and im not about to let it repeat itself again for my junior year. I need your guys' help badly, can you help me in ways to improve myself socially?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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playa99

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have you read the HS bible yet man, this lays the foundations of a good DJ it may take time but these things dont come overnight you have to work at them ;)
 

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hmm
sounds like you need to get a new group of friends to hang out with?
what i did was i just talked to EVERYONE, and didn't care about my past.

Don't let you past get in the way of the present.
i think you are afraid to act yourself in front of them because they know you, and you will think that showing them the "true you" will make them think your trying to just "fit in"

What i've noticed, wearing name brand clothing that the "popular" kids wear like hollister and american eagle, really gave me a huge confidence boost.
 

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Crazy Asian said:
hmm
sounds like you need to get a new group of friends to hang out with?
what i did was i just talked to EVERYONE, and didn't care about my past.

Don't let you past get in the way of the present.
i think you are afraid to act yourself in front of them because they know you, and you will think that showing them the "true you" will make them think your trying to just "fit in"

What i've noticed, wearing name brand clothing that the "popular" kids wear like hollister and american eagle, really gave me a huge confidence boost.

right. so he says he's in the same predicament as you... and you give him advice on how to get better?

and you tell him to be like everyone else? but you also say something about not trying to "fit in"? what?

this forum blows nowadays.
 

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ok i just reread my post and it doesn't make sense at all.
just ignore it
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Cleaned up this thread some.

Best advice really is to read the links in the "HS Guide" thread. That should help you out immensely.
 
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