"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Okay, i'm not realy good at this, but here's my story so far (I need drastic change)

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Basically I'm in the same exact situation as crazy asian, in the fact that im in 11th grade, and I used to be really popular and well liked in junior high, but ever since I came to high school I haven't been happy hanging out with the people I currently am. I used to be the funniest kid in the school in junior high but now I feel like I dont have the self esteem to even crack a joke because people might think 'he's just trying to be funny to fit in'. I'm sick of it and I want to change. Basically I fell in with the wrong crowd right off the bat as a freshman and I was constantly made fun of the entire year, which probably deep down subconsciously made me feel insecure, even though the teasing stopped.

Now, this year, I'm hanging out with a different group of kids, but I feel like I'm too clingy to them as they seem to get annoyed sometimes when I get into conversations (I could be getting mixed messages, I don't know) and I'm not the best conversationalist when I'm feeling awkward or unwanted.

Also in addition I make stupid spur of the moment decisions. An example is earlier today I stopped by and talked to my friend for a second in the parking lot, and then one of my other friends passed by and said 'hey, check out my car' and my friend replied 'alright' and I felt like that was my cue to leave and so I did, but really looking back on it I probably should've come with him, and maybe that's what's really still distancing me from some of my friends - the fact that I don't hang out with them other than at school.

Really, I'm just looking to change man, I'm tired of this bullsh!t and I want out. Thats basically my life story the past two years at high school and im not about to let it repeat itself again for my junior year. I need your guys' help badly, can you help me in ways to improve myself socially?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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playa99

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have you read the HS bible yet man, this lays the foundations of a good DJ it may take time but these things dont come overnight you have to work at them ;)
 

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hmm
sounds like you need to get a new group of friends to hang out with?
what i did was i just talked to EVERYONE, and didn't care about my past.

Don't let you past get in the way of the present.
i think you are afraid to act yourself in front of them because they know you, and you will think that showing them the "true you" will make them think your trying to just "fit in"

What i've noticed, wearing name brand clothing that the "popular" kids wear like hollister and american eagle, really gave me a huge confidence boost.
 

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Crazy Asian said:
hmm
sounds like you need to get a new group of friends to hang out with?
what i did was i just talked to EVERYONE, and didn't care about my past.

Don't let you past get in the way of the present.
i think you are afraid to act yourself in front of them because they know you, and you will think that showing them the "true you" will make them think your trying to just "fit in"

What i've noticed, wearing name brand clothing that the "popular" kids wear like hollister and american eagle, really gave me a huge confidence boost.

right. so he says he's in the same predicament as you... and you give him advice on how to get better?

and you tell him to be like everyone else? but you also say something about not trying to "fit in"? what?

this forum blows nowadays.
 

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ok i just reread my post and it doesn't make sense at all.
just ignore it
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Cleaned up this thread some.

Best advice really is to read the links in the "HS Guide" thread. That should help you out immensely.
 
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