"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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thezenmachine

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I wrote a thread months ago about a girl I was seeing who has a 'boyfriend' who lives in Australia (we live in FL). Its a guy she met on vacation and hasn't seen since (7 months). We hooked up once and she said she felt guilty. Long story short, I next her.

We were still hanging out as friends every so often and she said she couldn't hang out with me last week, so I gave her the cold shoulder, when she'd text me, I'd give the shortest, least satisfying answer possible. Well, she went ballistic and started kissing my ass like crazy, calling me, telling me how great I am, she facebooked me and she's writing hearts and stuff the while we chatting.

Anyway, she asks if she can come up to my gym (I'm the owner) while I work out during closed hours today. Things were cool and we started talking about this Australian guy and she said he got a new job and she hadn't even been able to talk to him in a week. During the talk, I ended up going off (in a sort of nice way, but very firm) about that whole situation. She ate it up and has been texting me all day and saying how great we get along and I'm her favorite person to talk to.

Obviously I should just keep up what I'm doing, but how do I know if she just wants my attention or she's actually getting interested? I've got 2 other girls I've been seeing, but I'm more interested in this one for LTR.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Tazman

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^^^!!!

Hanging out as "friends" was a bad move.
 

PeeGee

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If you want a confirmation stop doing platonic things and make a move. If she rejects your advances, you should re-next her and stop contact.
 

dark god

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thezenmachine said:
I wrote a thread months ago about a girl I was seeing who has a 'boyfriend' who lives in Australia (we live in FL). Its a guy she met on vacation and hasn't seen since (7 months). We hooked up once and she said she felt guilty. Long story short, I next her.

We were still hanging out as friends every so often and she said she couldn't hang out with me last week, so I gave her the cold shoulder, when she'd text me, I'd give the shortest, least satisfying answer possible. Well, she went ballistic and started kissing my ass like crazy, calling me, telling me how great I am, she facebooked me and she's writing hearts and stuff the while we chatting.

Anyway, she asks if she can come up to my gym (I'm the owner) while I work out during closed hours today. Things were cool and we started talking about this Australian guy and she said he got a new job and she hadn't even been able to talk to him in a week. During the talk, I ended up going off (in a sort of nice way, but very firm) about that whole situation. She ate it up and has been texting me all day and saying how great we get along and I'm her favorite person to talk to.

Obviously I should just keep up what I'm doing, but how do I know if she just wants my attention or she's actually getting interested? I've got 2 other girls I've been seeing, but I'm more interested in this one for LTR.

What normal woman would date or hold out for some dude she not only met briefly on vacation but nonetheless hasnt seen in 7 months? And this ho monger is LTR material in ur book?
 

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Heres another question: How are u "seeing" this girl if she has a Man??? And a better question is R U FVCKING HER?!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Jeffst1980

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You're considering her for an LTR??
She's already proved to be a cheater. What makes you think she wouldn't cheat on you?

It sounds like you're just providing validation for this girl while her bf is inaccessible. And you didn't 'next' her at all if you're hanging out with her and wondering if she likes you.

Whenever a girl brings up a boyfriend in a conversation, it usually spells friendzone for you. Think about it: if her goal is to get you to date her, why would she bring up a subject likely to dissuade you from doing so? He's halfway across the globe and there's no reason to mention him at all if she was planning on branch swinging; she'd just do it.

In all likelihood, she's using you to make her BF jealous. All the stuff she's writing you is designed to keep you around for further use. If you want to increase her interest level, you need to beat her at her own game and start talking about other girls in front of her and treat her completely platonic--demonstrate that she has no power over you. But then, it's probably a waste of time to spend on a cheater.
 
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