"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Ok I'm gonna give SS a try. BUT...

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there is no way in hell that I'm (a college student trying to get by) going to spend 300 some odd bucks on learning the $hit. Do you folks think I can learn this stuff by reading the stuff on this site and putting it to use.

p.s I'm gonna read as much as I can and then try to run some kind of pattern on this woman I know later on today. I'm just afraid I may bust out laughing when I say something like Hapenis.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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It will work better if you actually HEAR how patterns are run. Much better.

I think it helps to also find out how and why patterns work, so that you aren't just memorizing something, and have no idea why it works.
 

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I learned SS not from Jeffries' course, I read a lot of cheaper books. Spent about 100 bucks.

As I see it now, it would've been easier just to order the package. It focuses on women and you wont have to reinvent the wheel. But now I have quite a lot of funny exciting SS 'learning experiences'.


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A lot of Jefferies audio tapes are avaible on the net. Download some mp3's using iMesh or another peer to peer program and decide if the audios are worth the high prize.

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Chance will probably bite himself in the arse reading this.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Yeah I'm not gonna lie ... I'm pretty damn broke (damn high school honors; all study & hardly time for play or workin for money) so I d/led some of this Ross Jeffries stuff to test it out. All I can say is that it is pretty good stuff and that I might start learning how to implement this into my macking. And you know what is ironic and really sad? I heard about this SS stuff before on some page that gave out free NLP patterns and all this other stuff. I tried using it on a friend, and she totally opened up to me, even saying, "I can't believe I'm telling you this but" I should've started learning this a long time ago ... cuz I believe the only weakness I have in my macking lie in my communication skills (both verbally and nonverbally). I think that working on this SS stuff can help me focus on improving that aspect of my DJing. Paz
 

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I may just do that, and what is this 'wheel' your talking about Vronski.

Also chance, it seems like you've picked up on this stuff pretty fast. About how long do you guys think it'll take the average joe to learn this stuff.
 

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and what is this 'wheel' your talking about Vronski.
It means that I've learned NLP the hard way. I was reading manuals for psychiatrists and had to come up with my own patterns.

Eventually I discovered them, but I was quite good already.

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Well, I was reading books for about 3 months in my spare time, then maybe 2 months of outings(maybe 10-15 women) whom I approached before it started working.

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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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All I know is that I just robbed Ross jeffries clean. I d/l'ed a grip of stuff off of Kazaa last night and listened to one of his audio speeches. When I have time, I'll listen to the rest but it's a lot of listening. I must have stolen about 8-9 audio tapes. It sounds good so far though.
 
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