"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Ok im confused please help

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Ok so I asked this girl out. We have been friends for 2 years but have become really close in the last 8 or 10 months. Her boyfriend,of 5 months, dumped her 2 weeks ago. I knew I should've waited longer to ask her out but people were doing it already and I though I'd lose her if I didn't so anyway. I asked she pretty much said no, it was a nice no but I'm not sure if it was a straight no or a no not yet our conversation went something like this [I'll call her B]
[after I had asked the question]
B:You really wouldn't want to go out with me,I do too much work and I'm not that fun to be with
ME:If I thought that was true I wouldn't have asked you,if you dont want to go out with me all you have to say is no
B:no no no its not that,Its just the last guy I went out with hurt me badly and we [meaning her and I] are great friends and I dont want that to be made different if things get awkward.
So did I ask too soon?
or was it a straight no?
sorry for it being so long
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Mate I got no idea but I do know what your trying to do rarely works (going from the friend zone to boyfriend) all you can really do is stick around as her mate but carry on gettin others girls numbers and goin on dates with em. Maybe she'll realise then that she should take her chance and go for you because you have your choice and you picked her. Or maybe you two will carry on as friends and you'll find a new girl.

One thing is for certain, your not going to help yourself by hanging around waiting for her to make her mind up.
 

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Welcome to the Friend Zone

Population: You.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I disagree with muscles on this post and pretty much anything else I've ever seen him write so pay no attention, not everything is as clear cut as he'd like to think.

She did turn you down. But let's think about why. Has she ever looked at you in a romantic or sexual manner? Doesn't sound like it. So naturally, just because you bring up the idea isn't gonna get her thinking otherwise. From what you wrote it sounds like she's really down on herself right now, but it didn't sound like getting together with her would be entirely out of the question either. But something big needs to change. You need to get her to think of you sexually.

Keep in mind, you are rolling the dice here. If you can't change her thought process about yourself, it's not going to happen. And the only way to accomplish this is to stop treating her like a friend. You stop treating her like a friend and you won't be friends anymore. So ask yourself, is this someone I'm willing to potentially not have in my life anymore for the chance to have something more than what we already got? In a highschool setting, I'll always say go for it. If you go to school with 1000 people you might see 10 of them once you graduate.

So, how do you change her thought process? Well, you've got some recovering to do. Shouldn't have just asked her to be your girlfriend like that, gotta stir up the pot a little bit first. But highschool girls have the memory of an elephant so it shouldn't be that hard. Your objective is simple and has already been posted on sosuave numerous times. Make her begin to feel like youre dating without actually comin out and saying it. How do you do this? Ask her to join you in whatever activities you so choose--and do them alone. Also, not saying you don't already, but dress nice and bulk up. I can't emphasize these enough. Yeah the whole DJ concept bullsh*t and techniques are great but more times than not a girl just wants someone that looks good and that they feel safe around. Take her places, spend time, get close when the opportunities present itself, and at some point you've gotta make a move. Just don't ever call hanging out with her a date until after you go for the kiss.

If you really want her than approach her from now on like you would any other girl except go really light on the neg hits.
 
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Thanks fr this jmm
I do know she already finds me attractive [she told me] but over the last day or so I realised I didn't mind too much she said no. I found out another girl iked me and i like her so I am with her now Thanks for ecerything dudes
 

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The Shocker said:
Welcome to the Friend Zone

Population: You.

oooo ouch, but painfully true!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Use some Kino, start showing more romantic interest, but if she doesn't like it - you're stuck in the friend zone bud.
 

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Kino is short for Kinaesthetic i.e. touching.

Kino is used to make a woman feel more comfortable around you, and more comfortable with your touch. It makes things a lot easier if they're comfortable around you :)

Don't overdo it, just light stuff at first - i.e. touching their hand when you make a point etc.
 
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