"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Oh no, now there is a Miss Britain Curve contest!

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I would TOTALLY nail that.

Anyone who wouldn't is FLIPPING GAY! And that is a scientific, mutually agreed upon, set in stone, basted in butter and served up hot FACT!
 

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FairShake said:
I would TOTALLY nail that.

Anyone who wouldn't is FLIPPING GAY! And that is a scientific, mutually agreed upon, set in stone, basted in butter and served up hot FACT!
Must we really have our sexuality questioned for not being attracted to fat women? I think your exaggerating just a tad. I'd maybe hit it in a call for "last drinks" 2am emergency way but I'd be ashamed of myself .

Your also missing the bigger(heh) picture. It's yet another MSM push of "fat acceptance" down our throats, which in turn encourages more women to embrace laziness and fatten up, which in turn has her a jaded cat herder in her 40's, which in turn widens the gap between supply and demand for men.

It's a lose/lose for everyone. The bigger picture Fairshake, get to know it.

I can still vaguely remember when curvy meant this, with an absolute maximum of this
 

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I can still vaguely remember when curvy meant this, with an absolute maximum of this
This is my mind is "pleasingly plump" (although a bit on the plump side) - a woman who is very feminine (a chunky chick must ABSOLUTELY have very large breasts and a low waist to hip ratio to be considered very feminine), who could be fun to slop around with. Of course, because such women invariably become truly obese as they age, I could never marry one - and because I know of a guy who did slop around with one that ended up having an "accident", I really would not want to fool around with one in any case.
 

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I would TOTALLY nail that.

Anyone who wouldn't is FLIPPING GAY! And that is a scientific, mutually agreed upon, set in stone, basted in butter and served up hot FACT!

She should be shot.:crackup:
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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and herin lies the problem! guy are still dating them and women knwo this, take advantage of it. men need to stop this ****

"Unless her health is affected, then your judgement are simply subjective. 'Fat' is a relative term and since nearly 50% of UK women are over a size 16, and guys till seem to be dating and marrying them, i think your judgements are probably in the minority.

- Lindy , UK, United Kingdom, 28/6/2013 04:50"
 

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No one is telling you to give accolades to anyone?

No one is shoving fat women in your face telling you to be attracted to them... So, what's the problem?

The fact that someone, somewhere, finds fat women hot, and there's this place which deal out medals to them? lol.. Why do you actually give two sh!ts?
 

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No one is telling you to give accolades to anyone?

No one is shoving fat women in your face telling you to be attracted to them... So, what's the problem?

The fact that someone, somewhere, finds fat women hot, and there's this place which deal out medals to them? lol.. Why do you actually give two sh!ts?
If men want to hear and see the squeals of confidence and delight from hogs they'll get a job on a pig farm.

Haven't I already explained what happens when society celebrates obesity to you? If your not willing to keep quiet and learn here you shouldn't even be here.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Halcyonique said:
No one is telling you to give accolades to anyone?

No one is shoving fat women in your face telling you to be attracted to them... So, what's the problem?

The fact that someone, somewhere, finds fat women hot, and there's this place which deal out medals to them? lol.. Why do you actually give two sh!ts?
women are shoving fat women in our faces and telling us its supposedly 'normal' to be attracted to them or that we are not real men if we dont find the hogs attractive.
 

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Halcyonique said:
No one is telling you to give accolades to anyone?

No one is shoving fat women in your face telling you to be attracted to them... So, what's the problem?

The fact that someone, somewhere, finds fat women hot, and there's this place which deal out medals to them? lol.. Why do you actually give two sh!ts?
What these "beauty" pageants for obese women hope to achieve is to make young girls feel that it is "beautiful" for them to aspire to be obese themselves. Not only is it incredibly unhealthy to be obese, but the vast majority of men find it unattractive. Now, I don't go around shaming obese women (or men) I see out in public, I just don't think we should actively encourage young people to think it is "glamorous" to be obese, but by offering cash, prizes, and praise, this is exactly what the pageant organizers and supporters are doing.
 

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If men want to hear and see the squeals of confidence and delight from hogs they'll get a job on a pig farm.

Haven't I already explained what happens when society celebrates obesity to you? If your not willing to keep quiet and learn here you shouldn't even be here.
Yes, obesity is unhealthy - I'll never argue that it isn't. But so too is the inability to deal with someone disagrees with you: a trait you've enjoyed showing off to me for some time now.

If I learned from you, I'd devolve into someone who lacks the ability to know the difference between "your" and "you're", and cannot cope when a conflicting opinion came my way without stooping to nonsense like "you shouldn't even be here". So relax, cupcake.
 

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MikeOck said:
What these "beauty" pageants for obese women hope to achieve is to make young girls feel that it is "beautiful" for them to aspire to be obese themselves. Not only is it incredibly unhealthy to be obese, but the vast majority of men find it unattractive. Now, I don't go around shaming obese women (or men) I see out in public, I just don't think we should actively encourage young people to think it is "glamorous" to be obese, but by offering cash, prizes, and praise, this is exactly what the pageant organizers and supporters are doing.
Show me one woman who - as a result of being exposed to fat pageants - now aspires to become obese.

I see way more women striving to be thin, because thin is still the general standard of attractiveness portrayed in the majority of the media.

It's also probably easier for women to become fat than to obtain a body as close to "perfect" and slender as possible, thus the diet, beauty, and fashion industries make profit off of the desire for women to become thin. The advertising industry is a pretty powerful animal when it comes to the whole pressure to be thin. I don't think that is about to be matched be a few pageants and a few celebrations of larger ladies.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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It's also probably easier for women to become fat than to obtain a body as close to "perfect"
You would know. And the word YOUR looking for is "normal". Not "perfect".

Spelling? Nice counter argument. Sure I might swipe my phone fast, but it could be worse. I could be a plumper trying my darndest to make men love the fat.
 

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Halcyonique said:
Show me one woman who - as a result of being exposed to fat pageants - now aspires to become obese.

I see way more women striving to be thin, because thin is still the general standard of attractiveness portrayed in the majority of the media.

It's also probably easier for women to become fat than to obtain a body as close to "perfect" and slender as possible, thus the diet, beauty, and fashion industries make profit off of the desire for women to become thin. The advertising industry is a pretty powerful animal when it comes to the whole pressure to be thin. I don't think that is about to be matched be a few pageants and a few celebrations of larger ladies.
who is saying it promotes being morbidly obese as aspirational? being morbidly obese is becoming normalised, and you are encouraging that by your defence of land whales. if anyone has a FB account, they just have to look at the likes a hog gets when she posts a new pic to get an idea of how this mechanic is working out. 'she is fat, gets likes, must be good and acceptable, try to counter that and watch people get shot down (as you are attempting, and failing, to do now).
BTW how big are you dear girl?
 

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betheman said:
who is saying it promotes being morbidly obese as aspirational? being morbidly obese is becoming normalised, and you are encouraging that by your defence of land whales. if anyone has a FB account, they just have to look at the likes a hog gets when she posts a new pic to get an idea of how this mechanic is working out. 'she is fat, gets likes, must be good and acceptable, try to counter that and watch people get shot down (as you are attempting, and failing, to do now).
"Boo hoo fat women get more appreciation than I do and I hate it!"

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BTW how big are you dear girl?
Accuse me of being obese. :) I get tired of reciting my personal stats to weirdo stalkers here who want to track my identity. So just go on thinking that because I don't weep at the sight of a fat women, I myself must be huge! Surely! Do it. It'll make you feel better.
 

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"Boo hoo fat women get more appreciation than I do and I hate it!"



Accuse me of being obese. :) I get tired of reciting my personal stats to weirdo stalkers here who want to track my identity. So just go on thinking that because I don't weep at the sight of a fat women, I myself must be huge! Surely! Do it. It'll make you feel better.
predictable female response, you have no credible input.
 

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I'm still blown away by how the word "curvy" has become the politically correct term for "fat woman". There's a major difference between curves and lumps. Curvy girls have a bit of extra weight but still have a figure. The girl who won the beauty pageant is most certainly fat. She has no figure. She is a blob with terrible eyebrows.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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