"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Good job!

I'm glad to hear this. She's a cute girl, and it sounds like she's treating you right at this point.

If she keeps coming over and giving you the azz, then that's all that matters man.

And you've got the other one, too. Just keep it going. Success has a processional effect, so do what your doing.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Well I was drinking too so that helped.

OH man I forgot to tell you guys what else she said that night.

Before the BJ, she was looking down at my fully erect tool.

She said "Damn, it goes all the up to your bellybutton? My Ex's **** was SO small"

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL


I love this girl!

Not really, but you know what I mean.

Oh and guys I'm hooking Trim up with my Japanese girls friend.... We look out for each other here!
 
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NO this isn't the japanese girl who said that. This is the freak from match who "uses me for sex".

I haven't banged the Japanses girl yet but she is coming over tonight.


This girl is a white chic who told me that LOL..yeah I'm white too.
 
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Originally posted by TheTrimReaper
Good job!

I'm glad to hear this. She's a cute girl, and it sounds like she's treating you right at this point.

If she keeps coming over and giving you the azz, then that's all that matters man.

And you've got the other one, too. Just keep it going. Success has a processional effect, so do what your doing.
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Now she keeps saying she wants me to come over to HER house... Should I go? It's like an hour drive.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Originally posted by Immaculate
Now she keeps saying she wants me to come over to HER house... Should I go? It's like an hour drive.
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Tell her "Sure, you whip up something for dinner and I'll pack an overnight bag."
 
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Originally posted by joekerr31
dude, this is so dysfunctional i don't even know where to start.

you meet a chic off the internet, bang her the first night, kick her out in a drunken state of dislike, don't remember the next day, tell her you have an std, she tells you what you did... now you guys are considering developing this relationship further.
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joekerr31,

You always have great posts!
Sure, it is how American relationship start these days.

Note, he behaves like a typical jerk and...we all see the results - she fvcks him like crazy.
I think it simply exemplifies the idea of how not to be an AFC.
i.e. get drunk and kick her out. Sure a guy was not preoccupied with thoughts of how to be nice to her. He did what he wanted to do, now...she is fvcking him giving him some very lame excuses like she didn't have sex in 6 months.

But I gotta disagree with you on one thing: this thread is not retarded. It is probabbly the most typical and simple scenario that
leads to success i.e. sex with a woman.
She would never fvck him if he acted like a decent guy taking her top a dinner or a walk in the park and calling her next day to ask if she wants to go see a movie.

Dysfunctional these days means normal or sometimes it means (as it is the case here) success.
 
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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Tell her "Sure, you whip up something for dinner and I'll pack an overnight bag."
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heheheh Francisco you always got the best lines... where's that book man? Just write one and fill it with lines to use to seduce women over the net.



She emailed and says she got one of those projectors, and she has like a movie theatre inside of her house. She said "You have GOT to come over and see this"..

Well, sorry babe. You blew it with your games. I have a sweet Japanese girl ETA 2 hours to my place.

I didn't say that ofcourse, it's just the truth.

If she is interested in me, she screwed herself, because I really liked her until her mind games.
 
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Originally posted by al77
joekerr31,

You always have great posts!
Sure, it is how American relationship start these days.

Note, he behaves like a typical jerk and...we all see the results - she fvcks him like crazy.
I think it simply exemplifies the idea of how not to be an AFC.
i.e. get drunk and kick her out. Sure a guy was not preoccupied with thoughts of how to be nice to her. He did what he wanted to do, now...she is fvcking him giving him some very lame excuses like she didn't have sex in 6 months.

But I gotta disagree with you on one thing: this thread is not retarded. It is probabbly the most typical and simple scenario that
leads to success i.e. sex with a woman.
She would never fvck him if he acted like a decent guy taking her top a dinner or a walk in the park and calling her next day to ask if she wants to go see a movie.

Dysfunctional these days means normal or sometimes it means (as it is the case here) success.
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OK, Joker who I respect much is off a bit in his interpretation of what happened.

I didn't kick her out. She was leaving at 3 am in the morning, after we had sex for a long time, and I had 10 tequila shots that night. So I sleep for an hour to be woken up by "I'm leaving".

I didn't kick her out, but I apparently did yell at her and call her psycho. LOL. (I still don't remember this at all. She really could be making it up).
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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well guys turn of events

the japanese girl flaked on me, not coming over

so I got into AIM with the other girl and she wnats to come over tonight


I used da mans line (Francisco) .. she says her parents are there right now building a shelf for her new projector and she'll call me when she wants me to leave for her house tonight.

God having a back up is nice.

At last I know what it feels like to be a semi DJ

If one girl flakes, onto the next

looks like I'llbe driving an hour tonight. she already gave me her addy to mapquest it.... this should be interesting!
 
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Originally posted by Immaculate
OK, Joker who I respect much is off a bit in his interpretation of what happened.

I didn't kick her out. She was leaving at 3 am in the morning, after we had sex for a long time

I didn't kick her out, but I apparently did yell at her and call her psycho. LOL. (I still don't remember this at all. She really could be making it up).
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Didn't you say:
"She says I was rude and said "go find someone your compatible with then, this internet dating isn't working out for me"?

It seems that you were actually kicking her out with "Go find someone.. it is not working for me.."
Since you admit you don't remeber anything,well, we gotta trust her whatever she is thinking up ;)

Immaculate, anyway you did good since you succeeded. I just wanted to say you thread exemplifies successful jerk behavior that helps to get women and avoid AFC behavior.
Doesn't matter really whatever you said in reality, it was something that a natural jerk would have said.
 
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Originally posted by al77
Didn't you say:
"She says I was rude and said "go find someone your compatible with then, this internet dating isn't working out for me"?

It seems that you were actually kicking her out with "Go find someone.. it is not working for me.."
Since you admit you don't remeber anything,well, we gotta trust her whatever she is thinking up ;)

Immaculate, anyway you did good since you succeeded. I just wanted to say you thread exemplifies successful jerk behavior that helps to get women and avoid AFC behavior.
Doesn't matter really whatever you said in reality, it was something that a natural jerk would have said.
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yeah I said all that while she was leaving on her own will

anyway see me above post before yours
 
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Originally posted by Immaculate
well guys turn of events
the japanese girl flaked on me, not coming over

I used da mans line (Francisco) .. she says her parents are there right now building a shelf for her new projector and she'll call me when she wants me to leave for her house tonight.

God having a back up is nice.
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Keep in mind that the japanese girl could require much more time before she comes over to your place, she knows what it means! As you know Japanese culture is more reserved..

Sure the back up is nice, sometimes you can even admit you have it: "Sure call me back when they are done, meanwhile I'll probably hang out with my japanese friend".
So at leat the other girl would start thinking you got options and she has to act quickly ;)

I start liking your thread!
 
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Originally posted by al77
Keep in mind that the japanese girl could require much more time before she comes over to your place, she knows what it means! As you know Japanese culture is more reserved..

Sure the back up is nice, sometimes you can even admit you have it: "Sure call me back when they are done, meanwhile I'll probably hang out with my japanese friend".
So at leat the other girl would start thinking you got options and she has to act quickly ;)

I start liking your thread!
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But the Japanese girl came over to my house last night! She said she wanted to stay the night but she can't because she didn't tell her host parents she would be out all night... whatever .. look like I'll be driving to see the mstch freak tonight! driving an hour SUCKS but she did it for me twice already.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Originally posted by Immaculate
But the Japanese girl came over to my house last night! She said she wanted to stay the night but she can't because she didn't tell her host parents she would be out all night...
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That sound like a very legit reason, it makes sense.
So simply mention somehting like "Let me show some 17th century Japanese art thing, I'll not take more than a couple of hours." After she comes over "Oh well, my friend was supposed to bring this piece of art but she's got a flat tire. Lets wait for her.." turn on the music and pur the wine..
Well if it sounds too complicated then "Let me just show you my collcetion of rare books\magazines\beer bottles all over the world"...

Keep us updated!
 
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Originally posted by al77
That sound like a very legit reason, it makes sense.
So simply mention somehting like "Let me show some 17th century Japanese art thing, I'll not take more than a couple of hours." After she comes over "Oh well, my friend was supposed to bring this piece of art but she's got a flat tire. Lets wait for her.." turn on the music and pur the wine..
Well if it sounds too complicated then "Let me just show you my collcetion of rare books\magazines\beer bottles all over the world"...

Keep us updated!
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she called me an hour before she was supposed to arrive and said "oh I forgot it's my friends birthday I have to hang out with her. but I can still come to your house for dinner but then I have to leave"

I told her dont worry wbout it. We'll do somthing another time. Have fun wioth your friends. Well. She invited me to her friends birthday party, so I don't think she was lying about that but I declined.


So now, just waiting on this other girl to call to tell me to come over. She said "did you mapquest me yet" I said ofcourse not, maybe you won't call. I don't have time to waste. I'll mapquest you as soon as u call"

She said "hey, I'm gonna call"

If she calls I'll let you guys know I'm on the way.
 
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She calleds guys

I'm on my way for a one hour drive!

This should be interesting!!
 
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Yo how to became Master Don Juan ? :)
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Just keep doing what you're doing.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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