Clooney4life
Don Juan
As I'm about to turn 40 it seems to be difficult to find a woman who hasn't had allot of sexual partners. What do you guys consider a tipping point that would disqualify her as low quality and easy?
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
It's not hypocritical in the least. Women are not men. Speaking for myself and probably a lot of guys if they thought about it, it's because of women I've had several sexual partners. In other words, no quality woman wants a relationship, but a lot of them want a ONS. Women have the choice not men.TheCWord said:Would be hypocritical to judge a woman for her number of sexual partners if you too have accumulated your fair share of bangs.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Finally! Someone tells the truth!Stagger Lee said:Women have the choice not men.
To each their own, but don't make the mistake of thinking if a woman has a high # of partners that it means she hasn't been in a LTR for any period of time. Most slvts have beta bf's, who they cheat on regularly behind their backs.TheCWord said:If a woman is 30 and has had 20-30 sexual partners, I don't consider that unreasonable - it tells me she probably hasn't been in an LTR for any period of time so I'll keep that in mind when evaluating her, though.
You know I respect you Espi, but I def disagree with you completely here.Espi said:A woman's sexual past means nothing to me. Why do you care?
Def agree with you here 100%. Most women completely lie to fit the image they are trying to portray. Heard a girl on a radio show mention how she has a system in place that she uses when this discussion comes up....lolIf you ask outright how many guys she's fvucked, do you think you'll KNOW for SURE that she's being honest?
:crackup::crackup::crackup:BeginningDJ said:One of them was a ONS. I just imagine ONS's I've been with and I can't imagine her one of them. I know its unfair
I know I shouldn't have asked, but isn't knowing the truth right even though it may hurt?
Latinoman-
I'm 25, she's 21. The relationship is strong, everything is split in half even though I eat, $hit and drink more than her. We are living together. I don't get if its a sexual or nonsexual relationship, we just have sex almost everyday. I never brought up with issue with her.
Francisco,
Her best friend found out that I slept with someone and told my girlfriend (##&%^@*&#). My girlfriend and her met before,but she never thought of it. Then one night we got drunk and she told me that her best friend talked to her. I said it was true and then we talked about it and had sex afterwards.
I asked because this is the first girl I have been in a serious relationship with and given my love to.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
A soon as a woman has had more than one partner her long term marital stability risk drops to near 50%.
All this is true. When it comes to their numbers...Danger said:The sluttier she is, the worse of a partner she will be.
Your best bet is to go as young as possible, to reduce the years riding the carousel. Aside from that, make sure to....
- Trust your gut.
- Don't ask her about her "count".
- Have fun and don't try hard for a relationship.
Over the dating period, you will get indicators of sluttiness. Just keep your eyes out for them and judge based on such indicators.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Can you elaborate on this here please, I know this is going off on a tangent but I would like this further explained just so I have more information etc.( . )( . ) said:That may be true to an extent but a textbook modern woman has an air and a certain vibe that her more chaste sisters do not yet have. You'll soon pick up on it.
Clooney4life said:Not sure if I just don't have my head in the right place... But I don't want the girl that everyone has passed around even if she is hot.... They seem to loose value for me when they see sex as just getting off or a way to be validated that they are wanted and desired....
Far from a natural reaction. More like a conditioned response which is why guys have different beliefs about it. What is natural is that biologically, humans are not meant to long-term pair bond but still people try to fit a square peg into a round hole. If you smash on it enough a few will end up fitting.Colossus said:You are a man and this is a natural reaction to slvtty behavior. There is no merit in slvts. I dont care what anyone says. Women with a lot of sexual partners have a demonstrated impairment in their ability to bond to a man. Plus, how great do you feel putting your d!ck inside a hole where dozens of other men have jizzed???
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.