"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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adamw5963

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I was having a good chat with a girl about 10 messages. I decided to go for the number close and asked if she had a number I could reach her at that would be easier. She responded by saying "maybe lol" So how should I go about responding to this?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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adamw5963

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You're right but a little too late now haha. So what would you recommend?
 

rhythmic

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Which site are you on? Online game isn't totally transferable between sites, they all have different feels. I use OKC and POF; POF is for quantity, OKC for quality, by my experiences (I've only met one girl in person from OKC, but she's awesome and I'm thinking of locking her down)
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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adamw5963

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Ok so I should just wait a couple of days and then invite her to instead of making some joke about her giving me the number?
 

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These lines have all worked for me can't take credit for them got them from Cajun. If you and a girl are messaging back and forth and you want to # close use "I hate playing email tag, why don't you give me your number so we can talk like normal people."

Another line you could use if shes online and you guys are messaging back and forth is "****, sorry im doing like 10 things at once here, why don't you give me your number and I'll call you in like...5 minutes?"

If she says maybe like she did to you I would use this line "Yeah you should totally play hard to get. Well im going to go grab something to eat now, when you're ready to give me your number let me know and we can talk like normal people...dork."
 

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She sounds like your typical POF AW just using men for an ego boost. I'd ditch her and never contact her again.

10 messages is way too long to communicate with a female online. If you're not able to number close a woman after 2-3 messages then you're not doing it right.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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