"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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nice_guyeh

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so iv been talking to this girl, and shes funny, down to earth. real nice girl, but i cant get over the fact - shes not ugly, but shes not hot.
a 5 or 6 i suppose.
im just stuck on the fact that shes not super attractive, although awesome personality..
how can i get past this? im trying to teach myself inner beauty kinda stuff, but i have a mental block here.

help/advice?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Thatfeel21

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As a guy thats been with women of all spectrums, the hotter ones dont necessarily perform better in the bed or even look anywhere near the same the next morning after their makeup evaporates! Keep that in mind and make your own decision....
 

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nice_guyeh said:
so iv been talking to this girl, and shes funny, down to earth. real nice girl, but i cant get over the fact - shes not ugly, but shes not hot.
a 5 or 6 i suppose.
im just stuck on the fact that shes not super attractive, although awesome personality..
how can i get past this? im trying to teach myself inner beauty kinda stuff, but i have a mental block here.

help/advice?
What are you? If you are above a 5 or 6 I assume you can get someone else. If not you need to get in where you fit in.
 

ThreeStorms

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nice_guyeh said:
how can i get past this? im trying to teach myself inner beauty kinda stuff, but i have a mental block here.

help/advice?
First, wrong category.
Second, I don't really get your intention to "teach yourself inner beauty stuff"? You cannot force yourself to be attracted to a girl. If you like her, hust spend time with her, and if you feel attraction at some point, go for it. Drop her if not. Simple as that.
 

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watch "shallow hal"? just kidding.

it's easy to sike yourself if you want. even with 9's or 10's. if you treat all women as 1's then you are more likely to build attraction. and by no means am i talking about disrespecting them. more along the lines of flirting and teasing and worrying about ****ing up what you would say to them. i am working on this myself...hard to explain

you think her looks are a 5 or 6
good, then think of her as a 5 or 6 as a whole. that way in your mind she won't be hit on guys a lot. guys will think she's ugly. you won't be jealous if she's around other guys. when you put her at a 5 or 6 you think to yourself if i gave her that score i am higher than that so i am the prize( you should always think that though)
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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ilikecharlene

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looks are not everything. But there has to be attraction there.

If she's not your type physically, then let her go. I think being shallow is not advisable, but it's still somebody's right to be so. we're too PC in our modern society lol...
 

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You cannot negotiate desire.
 

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I really don't understand this logic. Why is caring about looks as opposed to intelligence, personality, etc. considered shallow, bad morals, etc.?

Is it because people are born with looks but can supposedly control their intelligence and personality? Because I'd argue that isn't the case at all... the latter is as unmalleable as the former.

IMO it is just as valid/morally correct/whatever to turn down a girl due to bad looks as it is due to a bad personality/stupidity/whatever.
 

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dude ive been there, done that. It usually doesn't work well. No matter how cool she is, if you know that you can get a hotter chick, it will always nag you in the back of your mind. It will only get worse as the relationship looses its novelty. Its not fair to the girl. Cut it before you really hurt her. Trust me, she will not just grow on you.
You will keep improving and seeing hotter girls that you can attract, and then ur gurl is gonna seem inadequate. Your average girl can also sense when ur not that into them physically. They always do.
 

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sighsigh said:
I really don't understand this logic. Why is caring about looks as opposed to intelligence, personality, etc. considered shallow, bad morals, etc.?

Is it because people are born with looks but can supposedly control their intelligence and personality? Because I'd argue that isn't the case at all... the latter is as unmalleable as the former.

IMO it is just as valid/morally correct/whatever to turn down a girl due to bad looks as it is due to a bad personality/stupidity/whatever.
shallowness is subjective I guess. it's because we're too PC, and we say shallowness is bad to appease ugmos.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Sometimes I can't always pick and choose physical types, based on life experiences. Not only do I have problems on the outside but I also have aspergers- I have struggled most of my life to even see women differently to what I have been lead to believe about them and to tell good from bad, let alone having the courage to talk to them.

I know this is contradictory to what goes on in my blood stream and suppressing my desires, Perhaps I do secretly want 'out of my league type' girls, but tough, we can't always have these things.
 
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If you think you can pull better looking women then you'll always feel as though you're settling if you get involved with a plain jane. Me personally, I know I can pull above average looking women so I won't bother with any woman I consider below a 7 on my personal scale. Most of the women I date are 7-8's.
 
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