"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Not sure what to do here?
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
I had a door-to-door sales job once going to businesses. My boss, who was very good at the job, told me that he seeks out businesses with signs on the door that say "no soliciting." He explained to me that people put these signs on their doors because they were easily convinced by salesmen, therefore they were the best prospects. Women are like that, too.
The moment she said the "most guys just want sex" I would have said (while laughing) "Oh, sh!t. I'm gonna have to take you back home 'cause I was in this for the sex!"
You counter her sh!t test, subtily let her know you want, and like sex, and radiate your "I don't give a sh!t because you're not special" attitude to her.
If she takes you up on the ride back home she's done you a favor by saving you from wasting your time and money.
BUT.......
She's the one that brought up sex first......
She's the one that was thinking about f*cking......
Had you just challenged her stupid test and not been the "oh so different from the other guys white knight" you would have probably been in her pants that night.
women don't say what they mean
say that over and over until you automatically say it to your self every time a woman is talking.
Over and Out.
You counter her sh!t test, subtily let her know you want, and like sex, and radiate your "I don't give a sh!t because you're not special" attitude to her.
If she takes you up on the ride back home she's done you a favor by saving you from wasting your time and money.
BUT.......
She's the one that brought up sex first......
She's the one that was thinking about f*cking......
Had you just challenged her stupid test and not been the "oh so different from the other guys white knight" you would have probably been in her pants that night.
women don't say what they mean
say that over and over until you automatically say it to your self every time a woman is talking.
Over and Out.
Women don't say what they mean, women don't say what they mean, women don't say what they mean, women don't...
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Ok, great input guys.
Here is what I think is the main problem: I simply didn't have a contigency plan for the statement "most men just want sex".
During each phase of my interaction with a woman I am going to start to have a contingency plan based on what they say and I will respond accordingly.
For example one contingency plan for if they say "I just want to be friends" could be something like "oh no worries, you are ALREADY in my friend zone" (teasingly) or something like that which will throw them off and allow me to come at them from another angle or whatever.
If they say "I dont want to give you my number, I just met you" or something I'll have an answer for that too.
My biggest problem that night was, I believe, being unprepared. First date in awhile; I was a little rusty and I'm not going to beat myself up about it.
I also think she MAY have said that because (unbelievably, lol) she WASN'T that into me. And I think its due to my having low energy lately. I think my next search on here and possibly next post will be in regards to having higher energy levels and more charisma. I honestly felt sleepy that night and wasn't overly fun or exciting from what I recall...haven't had that *spring* in my step lately.
LOL
Ok, great input guys.
Here is what I think is the main problem: I simply didn't have a contigency plan for the statement "most men just want sex".
During each phase of my interaction with a woman I am going to start to have a contingency plan based on what they say and I will respond accordingly.
For example one contingency plan for if they say "I just want to be friends" could be something like "oh no worries, you are ALREADY in my friend zone" (teasingly) or something like that which will throw them off and allow me to come at them from another angle or whatever.
If they say "I dont want to give you my number, I just met you" or something I'll have an answer for that too.
My biggest problem that night was, I believe, being unprepared. First date in awhile; I was a little rusty and I'm not going to beat myself up about it.
I also think she MAY have said that because (unbelievably, lol) she WASN'T that into me. And I think its due to my having low energy lately. I think my next search on here and possibly next post will be in regards to having higher energy levels and more charisma. I honestly felt sleepy that night and wasn't overly fun or exciting from what I recall...haven't had that *spring* in my step lately.
jophil28
Master Don Juan
She says," Most men just want sex.."asid76 said:
You reply," Indeed they do, me most of all...and most women just want our money . Lets' do a deal. "
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I'm going to say this one more time;
Dinner equals sleep
Alcohol equals sex
NEVER take a girl you just met to dinner, that is like third, maybe fourth date. Take her out to drinks, kiss her at the end of the night. ALWAYS KISS HER. KISSING shows "I'm not your friend, I'm attracted to you". Even if she refuses the kiss, the message has been set. Take her out to drinks, let her relax with some alcohol.
Dinner equals sleep
Alcohol equals sex
NEVER take a girl you just met to dinner, that is like third, maybe fourth date. Take her out to drinks, kiss her at the end of the night. ALWAYS KISS HER. KISSING shows "I'm not your friend, I'm attracted to you". Even if she refuses the kiss, the message has been set. Take her out to drinks, let her relax with some alcohol.
Never be afraid to show you want sex, but do it in a challenging way. Act like you don't need it, but will fuvk her brains out at the first opportunity. You have to let some time pass before you have sex with her. Women love the anticipation. She is searching for a man who will make HER feel like wanting to have sex. What she is actually saying is; "They went too fast, I want a challenge.". BUT YOU HAVE TO KISS HER. Kissing is a message to the opposite sex that you want her.
Do you know who gives hugs to women? Guys who are on lunch breaks with female friends, mothers, gays and winnie the pooh.
Do you know who gives hugs to women? Guys who are on lunch breaks with female friends, mothers, gays and winnie the pooh.
asid76 said:
What?
Read the DJ bible.
If a woman tells you she just wants to be friends, it's not your cue to toss in some ****y and funny line hoping she will change her mind on the spot. What it is, is a sure sign you messed up the interaction with her, hence the friend zone.
After she says something like that your pritty much done for.
Your trying to find the magic bullet, the one line or one technique that can score you poon and turn around a womans low interest.
Wrong move buddy!
Your whole way of thinking is off base, instead of thinking of your super special move, you need to become the whole package.
Your level of understanding is basic, your grasp of the interaction and the forces at work are basic -
Read the DJ bible instead of looking for a quick fix plaster.
Doc Love is a good free resource too, google him.
Seriously - Some of the responses are good with how to turn it around, but the lines are delivered from a guy who encompases the whole package, if you try them, they will backfire, mark these words.
Edit - your on the right path, at least your willing to learn, that seperates you from 99% of the other guys out there.
DavenJuan
Master Don Juan
asid..
i agree with some of the advice given to you.....
- Jophil believes that it was over at "guys just want sex" and at that point you were "off the menu". GOOD POINT
- Danger and a few others believes it was a sh!t test and you should have plowed through it . GOOD POINT
We can all sit here and tell you what we THINK she was saying or what she meant by her statement. but if you wanna know the REAL reason why you were LJBF'ed its simple..
its because you catered to what you thought SHE wanted. you did things you thought SHE would enjoy. You played it completely SAFE.
at what point did you go after what YOU wanted? did what your inner self really wanted?
STOP PUTTING OTHERS BEFORE YOURSELF.
if she told you about guys "just wanting to have sex", why completely change what you would have NORMALLY done. why werent you still being YOU?
brother, there is no quick fix. there isnt lines and tips that we can give you that would have changed the outcome. the bottomlne is DO FOR YOURSELF brother. you have nothing to lose
i agree with some of the advice given to you.....
- Jophil believes that it was over at "guys just want sex" and at that point you were "off the menu". GOOD POINT
- Danger and a few others believes it was a sh!t test and you should have plowed through it . GOOD POINT
We can all sit here and tell you what we THINK she was saying or what she meant by her statement. but if you wanna know the REAL reason why you were LJBF'ed its simple..
its because you catered to what you thought SHE wanted. you did things you thought SHE would enjoy. You played it completely SAFE.
at what point did you go after what YOU wanted? did what your inner self really wanted?
STOP PUTTING OTHERS BEFORE YOURSELF.
if she told you about guys "just wanting to have sex", why completely change what you would have NORMALLY done. why werent you still being YOU?
brother, there is no quick fix. there isnt lines and tips that we can give you that would have changed the outcome. the bottomlne is DO FOR YOURSELF brother. you have nothing to lose