"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Not showing IL and the side effects...

darkjedi

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In my quest to become a DJ, I've been analyzing a few of the woman I've dated and lost in the past month or so. I believe this was due to me not showing enough IL which I'll explain shortly. I'm looking for thoughts and opinions on this question: Is it possible for a woman to lose interest in you completely if you are not showing her that you have a high IL in her after going on several dates?

Let me give you an example. I dated a woman for about a little over a month in which we seen each other 1-2 times a week and I would only call to setup the dates, nothing more. We would meet for dinner, drinks, or coffee for the first few weeks and then she invited me over to her place for dinner a week later. I then invited her to my place and we just basically chilled and watched a movie. I walked her out after the movie, she gave me a kiss and we had made plans to go out the next night in which I was to call her. I called and left a message the night we were to get together... I have not heard from her again since.

I believe this was due to me not showing IL or even attempting to escalate anything and she got tired of waiting. All the times we got together I did not initiate any kino (besides the end of the date hug) or go for a kiss. Actually she did ask me about this after dinner at her place, but this probably did more bad than good. Anyway I did kiss her at the end of that night. At my place while watching the movie again I did not attempt anything.

Again I'm looking for your thoughts on this.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Obsidian

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if you're not initiating any kino then you probably come off as a real wuss. The man is supposed to lead things, you know.
 

darkjedi

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Oh yeah, there is not doubt in my mind at all that I came across as a wuss. I didn't think it would be a deal breaker though.
 

blueguy

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Is this your first dating experience? How old are you?
 

darkjedi

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No it's not my first dating experience, but it was my first time experiencing this kind of reaction from a woman. I know better now, but just wanted to hear from the experiences of all the other DJ's about how much of a deal breaker it really is when you don't initiate kino, kissing, ect...

I'm 27 btw.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Tazman

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Call her up, hang out, escalate. If it doesn't work write her off. This is probably her way of trying to get you to "rise to the occasion" without having to make moves herself (especially since she brought it up during your dinner date), she doesn't want to come off as desperate or slutty by pushing things. Again, try it, if it doesn't work lose her number.
 
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