"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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svencandy

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just wondering if this is the norm.

Only realised today when ordering a coffee and the girl taking my order was very flirtatious.

Got a hard on in the 20 sec interaction.

My LTR of 2 years is pretty, wants sex, makes hood money, so yeh maybe you think that is unicorn like my best mate does.

But I hang out with her and dont feel sexual at all. Thought maybe its just a lull coz she recently got a puppy.

The puppy has changed her. In a good way I guess, but we all know good sex starts well before the clothes come off.

Its been a good test run for if we had kids I guess. Shes past her prime, still very pretty girl, but more BS to deal with as timw goes on.

Not asking for advice, just posting an experience to the forum to see if anyone has had similiar experience.

If we were each others firsts and had a kid, would be different, but knowing where shes been and how much of a slut she used to be, makes me apathetic towards the relationship.

Sign of the times I guess...

Peace and live to all
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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devilkingx2

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It sounds like the problem in this relationship could be you and not her. The reason that's relevant is that if the problem is internal you will bring it with you wherever you go.


My LTR of 2 years is pretty, wants sex, makes hood money, so yeh maybe you think that is unicorn like my best mate does.

But I hang out with her and dont feel sexual at all. Thought maybe its just a lull coz she recently got a puppy.
This section reminds me of RooshV's advice on signs a girl will cheat:


Specifically the first part about relationships being relatively boring by nature and therefore a girl who desires constant excitement is a flight risk.

I think it could apply to us men as well, be careful about getting bored of your girl.

Its been a good test run for if we had kids I guess. Shes past her prime, still very pretty girl, but more BS to deal with as timw goes on.
There's not a lot of detail here, but if she really is putting you through a lot of BS then that's definitely a serious problem

But the past her prime comment sounds like a grass is greener mindset. There's always a younger hotter girl out there unless you're dating a 21 year old lingerie model.

we were each others firsts and had a kid, would be different, but knowing where shes been and how much of a slut she used to be, makes me apathetic towards the relationship.
I'd say that pretty much any girl that isn't an 18 year old virgin or a chubby shut-in is going to have a past, unfortunately her life didn't begin when you met her.

However obviously if you know her past was crazy and you're dealing with the consequences, that's a great reason to get out of there.
 

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just wondering if this is the norm.

Only realised today when ordering a coffee and the girl taking my order was very flirtatious.
At 33, you haven't even hit your peak value yet. You can get a younger girl if you want. Why stay with this the one if you're not happy?

I don't recommend it but... At 33 and in a relationship, you are desirable. At 33 and no relationship, you are less desirable. Women LOVE to steal guys that are in relationships. It is the ultimate "Winning the prize". Maybe stay a little longer in the relationship in case the opportunity presents itself. In the mean time, distance yourself from this girl and work more on yourself, eg fitness, hobbies. Get out an meet people. See if anyone want to steal you.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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just wondering if this is the norm.

Only realised today when ordering a coffee and the girl taking my order was very flirtatious.

Got a hard on in the 20 sec interaction.

My LTR of 2 years is pretty, wants sex, makes hood money, so yeh maybe you think that is unicorn like my best mate does.

But I hang out with her and dont feel sexual at all. Thought maybe its just a lull coz she recently got a puppy.

The puppy has changed her. In a good way I guess, but we all know good sex starts well before the clothes come off.

Its been a good test run for if we had kids I guess. Shes past her prime, still very pretty girl, but more BS to deal with as timw goes on.

Not asking for advice, just posting an experience to the forum to see if anyone has had similiar experience.

If we were each others firsts and had a kid, would be different, but knowing where shes been and how much of a slut she used to be, makes me apathetic towards the relationship.

Sign of the times I guess...

Peace and live to all
You may find her pretty but you are not attracted to her, there is a huge difference. You need be with someone you are attracted to and have genuine desire for and vice versa , she needs to look at you the same way...this is not a choice and you cannot force it. Most people never find this because they are not willing to wait for it as it is hard to find mutually. This is why the divorce rate is so high, most of the time girls just settle for guys that are lower as they get older, start treating the guy like crap because they know deep down they don't want them.
 

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It is the norm, OP. Sex drive for your woman always decreases in LTR.

Try to spice it up. Did she gain weight? Is she trying new things in the bedroom? Talk to her. Trust that she noticed you don’t want to fvck her anymore.
 

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...the phenomenon called “new relationship energy” or NRE. And it eventually decreases and may even totally wear off. It’s not because people fall out of love; it’s because the neurochemical ****tail that fuels the ecstatic feelings and nonstop lust naturally winds down. Over the past several years, researchers have begun to identify not only the brain areas related to new relationship energy (NRE) but also the neurochemicals involved. The major areas identified include the ventral tegmentum, the amygdala, and the hippocampus – all areas that play roles in our reward pathway.
 

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Just a quick note on LTR.

Another woman is almost always going to be more enticing then the one you are with. So this may not have much to do with your current chick.

Men crave variety. If you are in a good LTR, obviously its probably best to discipline these cravings with self control.
 
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just wondering if this is the norm.

Only realised today when ordering a coffee and the girl taking my order was very flirtatious.

Got a hard on in the 20 sec interaction.

My LTR of 2 years is pretty, wants sex, makes hood money, so yeh maybe you think that is unicorn like my best mate does.

But I hang out with her and dont feel sexual at all. Thought maybe its just a lull coz she recently got a puppy.

The puppy has changed her. In a good way I guess, but we all know good sex starts well before the clothes come off.

Its been a good test run for if we had kids I guess. Shes past her prime, still very pretty girl, but more BS to deal with as timw goes on.

Not asking for advice, just posting an experience to the forum to see if anyone has had similiar experience.

If we were each others firsts and had a kid, would be different, but knowing where shes been and how much of a slut she used to be, makes me apathetic towards the relationship.

Sign of the times I guess...

Peace and live to all
If you don't want to **** her, what use is she to you?? Sex is what makes relationships possible. The fact that you've already been replaced by a goddamned juvenile dog should be a clue.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I was in the same position as you, and I’m the same age. However we were having sex and it was good I just found my ex facially not great sometimes, gorgeous others. I felt I could do better as a good looking 6’2 entrepreneur making good money, why settle for my 30+ year old LTR.

I had the tough convo where I said there’s no spark and “you’re not my happily ever after”. Hardest thing I’ve done, maybe I was too harsh. Anyway we kept seeing each other through covid lockdowns last year and ended up semi together without the title.

We broke up again in January mutually but kept in contact and having sex. Now she’s moving on I kind of feel I made a mistake and maybe should stop being so shallow as we have a great connection she’s my best friend and very feminine/loyal/submissive/traditional.

Its very confusing to always feel you can do better, my previously relationship was the same, didn’t really find my gf attractive, cheated on her, toxic and ended horribly.

It’s okay to settle with not a super model right?
 
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I was in the same position as you, and I’m the same age. However we were having sex and it was good I just found my ex facially not great sometimes, gorgeous others. I felt I could do better as a good looking 6’2 entrepreneur making good money, why settle for my 30+ year old LTR.

I had the tough convo where I said there’s no spark and “you’re not my happily ever after”. Hardest thing I’ve done, maybe I was too harsh. Anyway we kept seeing each other through covid lockdowns last year and ended up semi together without the title.

We broke up again in January mutually but kept in contact and having sex. Now she’s moving on I kind of feel I made a mistake and maybe should stop being so shallow as we have a great connection she’s my best friend and very feminine/loyal/submissive/traditional.

Its very confusing to always feel you can do better, my previously relationship was the same, didn’t really find my gf attractive, cheated on her, toxic and ended horribly.

It’s okay to settle with not a super model right?
You likely won't like this observation. Sounds like you might be somewhat narcistic , as opposed to confident.
Her face isn't that great, yet sometimes it is.
Perhaps she needs a reason to put on some makeup.
 

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You never know what you've lost until it's too late. Relationships are a balancing act, but the grass is not always greener on the other side. Choose wisely.
 

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A man should always experience as many women as possible. At least 25. All types. All ages. Get married once. Get divorced. Date a girl 20yrs younger. Date a girl 10yrs older. Date girls that have the total physical package. Date girls that have great hearts and are truly good people. Date $trippers. Date an average girl. Date a crazy girl. Date a submissive girl. Date a boring girl. Have a threesome. Date an insecure girl. But never date a fat girl :)

Only thru these experiences will you gain enough perspective to know if what you have is worth keeping.

I've been with close to 75 girls. All types of relationships. All types of girls. Everyone of them helped me realize what I have now is about as good as it gets. I have a chic that is attractive, likes sechs, smart, very rational by female standards, wants a man to lead, makes good money, not an attention wh0re, and I can have deep conversations with. She ranks high in all the categories that matter to me.

Yep I still think about other women and some crazy hot girls from my past. But I appreciate what I have because of my experiences and that's what keeps me loyal to my girl.
 

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You likely won't like this observation. Sounds like you might be somewhat narcistic , as opposed to confident.
Her face isn't that great, yet sometimes it is.
Perhaps she needs a reason to put on some makeup.
Pretty poor observation, I’m nothing like a narcissist (yes I had checked in the past), I have lots of empathy and value others above myself.

The only traits I seem to have is non commitment and cheating
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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If you don't want to **** her, what use is she to you?? Sex is what makes relationships possible. The fact that you've already been replaced by a goddamned juvenile dog should be a clue.
The bro has spoken and bro advice is real, it keeps it to the point and it's simple and it usually works.
 

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just wondering if this is the norm.
In general new women always sexually arouse the man than existing women, maybe ask her to change her style or buy her new accessories to look different, try some sex fetches that might also add spice.
 

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@catsmeow @EyeBRollin

I’ve actually decided to make it work with my ex, we had a long chat on Saturday, and Sunday at my house. I spoke about my fear of commitment and holding out for the fantasy id built up in my head since childhood. I came clean about certain things (but held back the things I think should wouldn’t forgive) so we have a clean slate.

We are going to trial her moving in with me for this year, with a view to purchasing a property together next year. I do love this woman, I don’t think it will be easy to find another best friend, my friends and family all agree with my decision.

I’ve booked some nice things for us (travel, spa, dinner) to get back into the exciting dating stage. She’s 33 but I love her and she excites me, I feel optimistic and scared rn.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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