"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Not pushing to screw a woman on a 1st date, benefical or not for a LTR?

tomwesten27

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I have 5 Tinder (online dating app) girls lined up for this upcoming week and next.

I am 29 and all these girls are 22-26 years old.

I understand that we like to caterogize women on dating apps to be damaged, crazy etc but literally every single female I know, or have met in my city has Tinder, so I use the app. I have gotten a lot of lays off of it but…I have more recently being looking for a LTR.

I feel that I play my game pretty well. Not a pro, but not a novice either.

So if I am looking for a LTR…should I tone down my aggressive lets slam on the first date attitude? Or continue with what I have been doing?

I just feel that every single female I have taken out on a date over the past year I approach with a aggressive confident attitude and I get a lay out of it..but I don't want just lays…I want a relationship

What do you guys think? I need help setting my mind right.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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ImprovingJuan

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if you are looking for a LTR and not a ONS, i guess you could wait till the third date to know her better, to check if she's LTR material and let it escalate to sex from there.
 

devilkingx2

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it depends

do you only get lays because you never call them again afterwards or because it just fizzles out

also, tinder might be to blame, it's mostly for hooking up(or so I hear)
 

Rainman4707

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I just go with the flow man...if I'm out with a girl who I like & think I would see again then I'm not so much thinking about the lay as im also looking for a relationship. I just have a good time with her.
 

gravityeyelids

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First off, i've been on Tinder for a while now. Expect 4 if not ALL 5 of them to flake. It's ridiculous the flake rate.

Second off... idk how many tinder girls you've met up with. but they ALMOST NEVER look as good as their pics.

Third...I've learned that, for the most part, any girl that is willing to meet up with a guy off tinder...id generally not dating quality anyways.

I realize i'm kind of a **** and didn't answer your original question. So i'll answer it: In general it's a good idea to escalate whenever possible. Other members may disagree, but if a girl is open to banging you on the very first date (yes, i'm aware that we're all super suave DJ's that drop panties B-) ), then i would be very very hesitant to consider her as a potential LTR girl.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Bingo-Player

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Oh this is a good question almost as good as the chicken & the egg

Its a DJ’s prerogative to get the panties to one side on the first date its his biggest challenge of course

BUT if you can do it that easily then of course so have others and more importantly so CAN others

On the flip side of this if she makes you wait too long how do you know she isn’t playing games !?!

I guess you have to take all of this into account when assessing her potential for a ltr

Its a personal decision you have to make based on your life experiences

Personally i will know by the end of the first date wether or not i would wa
nt to rip her clothes off and fvck her like it was my last day on earth if i didn’t get that feeling then it would just be a pump and dump anyways

Best advice i can offer at the moment because im not in the market for an LTR
 
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