"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I'm 37... dating a 24 year old hottie...my approach? Not giving her sex... it is completely strange to her...we've hooked up twice, meaning everything...BUT SEX. Drives her wild... I just told her I don't have sex with women I am not in a relationship with... what do you guys think of this? She's def. interested.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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lol, well now that she'll have sex with you, just go have sex with her...
 

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here's the thing... I actually like this one... so is there anyone else out there that holds back sex just because you actually want to proceed a LTR with the gal? I hope this approach doesn't backfire.
 

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A friend of mine who's 29 did this to a 24 y.o hottie. He wanted a LTR. After a short while, she dumped him, and said she doesn't want to have a relationship with guys she doesn't have sex with.
 

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Joeylee said:
...anyone else out there that holds back sex just because you actually want to proceed to a LTR with the gal? I hope this approach doesn't backfire.
This is not intended to be insulting, however this exact same tactic has been has been a favorite of the girls for centuries.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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IMO this is the stupidist thing ive ever heard... (IF you do actually want to have sex with her)

let me explain before you get insulted...

i never jump in the sack with a girl i am interested in up front, just my preference,

i am not "purposely" NOT having sex with her. i just choose not to "pursue" this particular avenue immediately. not because i think she will think im like every other guy trying to get in her pants, it really has NOTHING to do with her. i just find myself not really interested in women for LTRs who put out immediately.

now if i KNEW she wanted it and I fought my OWN needs/wants, then it seems like it is self defeating. you are portraying something that you really dont want to do anyway. where is the benefit?
 

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Jitterbug said:
A friend of mine who's 29 did this to a 24 y.o hottie. He wanted a LTR. After a short while, she dumped him, and said she doesn't want to have a relationship with guys she doesn't have sex with.
True. Building sexual tension is of the utmost importance, but for a reason. Lets take a woman "Lisa" You and Lisa once worked together, and now, 2 years later, you find yourselves single. She finds you on "MySpace" and quickly gets your digits, and proceeds to start texting you. You ask her out. The first date goes well, lots of Kino, and a long lingering kiss to end the date. Date number 2 goes well also, a longer date, and a lot of hand holding, kissing, and some fondling. She "has to work" the next AM, so no action, but about a 5 minute goodnight kiss.

By this time, her vagina has gotten wet for you in anticipation of sex. She has no interest in this LJBF nonsense, and is telling her friends about you. Say, 4 days after date number 2, she calls you at work, and is "bored" so you invite her to your little pad to "watch a movie" and have a drink, and she quickly agrees. (By this time, you should be prepared with condoms and fresh sheets) She shows up in a sexy little shirt, and kisses you on sight.

The film begins, you pour the wine, and start making out 24 minutes into "Day of the Dead"....off goes the film, on goes some R&B, the lights get turned down, and off comes her shirt.

She didnt drive all the way to your place at 11pm in the evening to watch a cheesy George Romero zombie flick from 1984. Sexually teasing her at this point is akin to shooting fish in a barrel. Or as the chief of the Ton Ton Moucoute told the main character in "Serpent and the Rainbow" "We are beyond that now, Dr. Allen"

You have invested time, energy and effort into the woman. She needs sexual release. Offer it to her. Pleasure her body, like no other man ever has. Remember to please her the way a Lesbian Lover would, but you have one advantage that a Lesbian can never have or buy, between your legs.
 

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Joeylee said:
I'm 37... dating a 24 year old hottie...my approach? Not giving her sex... it is completely strange to her...we've hooked up twice, meaning everything...BUT SEX. Drives her wild... I just told her I don't have sex with women I am not in a relationship with... what do you guys think of this? She's def. interested.
Don't blame her for having sex with someone she is not in relationship with. And she will do it... just give her time.
 

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The Pook is with you, Joey. You are following Anti-Dump's Machine.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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good advice guys. I thought this would be a good tactic on my part... considering the age difference, but then again, maybe you're right Daven, maybe it isn't about her. Maybe this is about me, I really do not find myself interested in women I have sex with immediately. No matter how great they are, once I have sex with them...the idea of an LTR is just not there anymore. Why the hell is this? Maybe my age and the fact that I was planning on being married by now plays a role.
 

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Joeylee said:
I'm 37... dating a 24 year old hottie...my approach? Not giving her sex... it is completely strange to her...we've hooked up twice, meaning everything...BUT SEX. Drives her wild... I just told her I don't have sex with women I am not in a relationship with... what do you guys think of this? She's def. interested.
What you are trying to say is you are an impotent 37 year old male who can't get his d1ck hard.
 

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selfmademob said:
What you are trying to say is you are an impotent 37 year old male who can't get his d1ck hard.
Posts like this ARE a perfect example of why this forum has gone down hill dramatically since the 2000-5 era. How does your post help contribute to everyone here trying to become a DJ?

I think you need to go read the bible.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Joeylee said:
I'm 37... dating a 24 year old hottie...my approach? Not giving her sex... it is completely strange to her...we've hooked up twice, meaning everything...BUT SEX. Drives her wild... I just told her I don't have sex with women I am not in a relationship with... what do you guys think of this? She's def. interested.

You got to be joking. Why would you wait when a 24 year old is offering you sex? Either you're trying to bug the hell out of most of the members on here or are absolutely clueless.

That's like winning the lottery and telling the government: "no thanks, you keep it"
 

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haha I really got the $hit kicked out of me for that post... alright in a couple days I'll call her and bang her...it'll be our 3rd "date" but hey...that strategy was also a good way to see how long she would give me head for. Since I told her I wanted to save some for later... there was nothing left for her to do but blow me. She got me off twice without the sex. She's def a keeper.
 

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I will pray to god that you get what you want.
God bless you!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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