I'm 37... dating a 24 year old hottie...my approach? Not giving her sex... it is completely strange to her...we've hooked up twice, meaning everything...BUT SEX. Drives her wild... I just told her I don't have sex with women I am not in a relationship with... what do you guys think of this? She's def. interested.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Not having sex with her...
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
jophil28
Master Don Juan
This is not intended to be insulting, however this exact same tactic has been has been a favorite of the girls for centuries.Joeylee said:
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
DavenJuan
Master Don Juan
IMO this is the stupidist thing ive ever heard... (IF you do actually want to have sex with her)
let me explain before you get insulted...
i never jump in the sack with a girl i am interested in up front, just my preference,
i am not "purposely" NOT having sex with her. i just choose not to "pursue" this particular avenue immediately. not because i think she will think im like every other guy trying to get in her pants, it really has NOTHING to do with her. i just find myself not really interested in women for LTRs who put out immediately.
now if i KNEW she wanted it and I fought my OWN needs/wants, then it seems like it is self defeating. you are portraying something that you really dont want to do anyway. where is the benefit?
let me explain before you get insulted...
i never jump in the sack with a girl i am interested in up front, just my preference,
i am not "purposely" NOT having sex with her. i just choose not to "pursue" this particular avenue immediately. not because i think she will think im like every other guy trying to get in her pants, it really has NOTHING to do with her. i just find myself not really interested in women for LTRs who put out immediately.
now if i KNEW she wanted it and I fought my OWN needs/wants, then it seems like it is self defeating. you are portraying something that you really dont want to do anyway. where is the benefit?
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True. Building sexual tension is of the utmost importance, but for a reason. Lets take a woman "Lisa" You and Lisa once worked together, and now, 2 years later, you find yourselves single. She finds you on "MySpace" and quickly gets your digits, and proceeds to start texting you. You ask her out. The first date goes well, lots of Kino, and a long lingering kiss to end the date. Date number 2 goes well also, a longer date, and a lot of hand holding, kissing, and some fondling. She "has to work" the next AM, so no action, but about a 5 minute goodnight kiss.Jitterbug said:
By this time, her vagina has gotten wet for you in anticipation of sex. She has no interest in this LJBF nonsense, and is telling her friends about you. Say, 4 days after date number 2, she calls you at work, and is "bored" so you invite her to your little pad to "watch a movie" and have a drink, and she quickly agrees. (By this time, you should be prepared with condoms and fresh sheets) She shows up in a sexy little shirt, and kisses you on sight.
The film begins, you pour the wine, and start making out 24 minutes into "Day of the Dead"....off goes the film, on goes some R&B, the lights get turned down, and off comes her shirt.
She didnt drive all the way to your place at 11pm in the evening to watch a cheesy George Romero zombie flick from 1984. Sexually teasing her at this point is akin to shooting fish in a barrel. Or as the chief of the Ton Ton Moucoute told the main character in "Serpent and the Rainbow" "We are beyond that now, Dr. Allen"
You have invested time, energy and effort into the woman. She needs sexual release. Offer it to her. Pleasure her body, like no other man ever has. Remember to please her the way a Lesbian Lover would, but you have one advantage that a Lesbian can never have or buy, between your legs.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
JackPrescott said:
good advice guys. I thought this would be a good tactic on my part... considering the age difference, but then again, maybe you're right Daven, maybe it isn't about her. Maybe this is about me, I really do not find myself interested in women I have sex with immediately. No matter how great they are, once I have sex with them...the idea of an LTR is just not there anymore. Why the hell is this? Maybe my age and the fact that I was planning on being married by now plays a role.
selfmademob
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What you are trying to say is you are an impotent 37 year old male who can't get his d1ck hard.Joeylee said:
MacAvoy
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Posts like this ARE a perfect example of why this forum has gone down hill dramatically since the 2000-5 era. How does your post help contribute to everyone here trying to become a DJ?selfmademob said:
I think you need to go read the bible.
selfmademob
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Read the bible? I AM THE BIBLE!
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
DonGorgon
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99.9999% chance she is getting it form some other (younger ) dude.
Joeylee said:
You got to be joking. Why would you wait when a 24 year old is offering you sex? Either you're trying to bug the hell out of most of the members on here or are absolutely clueless.
That's like winning the lottery and telling the government: "no thanks, you keep it"
haha I really got the $hit kicked out of me for that post... alright in a couple days I'll call her and bang her...it'll be our 3rd "date" but hey...that strategy was also a good way to see how long she would give me head for. Since I told her I wanted to save some for later... there was nothing left for her to do but blow me. She got me off twice without the sex. She's def a keeper.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.